In my opinion, Mehmet Ali Birand one of the greatest, beloved journalist who lost his life yesterday is worth to be mentioned here.  

His last job was as news presenter in a private channel. I remember in my high school times, I was watching his documentary series programs called 32.Gün. The way he was presenting news, his optimism and peaceful messages was still echoes in my ears. Death is so weird thing. Knowing that the people you are used to hear or see everyday suddenly disappear is so saddening. 

Rest in Peace Mehmet Ali Abi.

Türk milletinin başı sağolsun.

Allah rahmet eylesin.

From Today´s Zaman:

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-304449-in-memory-of-mehmet-ali-birand.html

I have a DVD of his documentary of Galatasaray´s Unforgettable Matches. It is really great. I really appreciated his enthuism of doing so many documentaries about many different issues.

Remember his famous slips of tounge which always put a smile on our face.

Some of them were,

one day while presenting a news , he said ; 

"madrid´in midyat ilçesinde bir süryani papaz..."

and another day , he said  " İsmail Komandaları´  instead of  " İsrail Komandoları " 

another one was ;

yayınımızda bugün "deniz zeki´yi" ağırlıyoruz. 

There were so many of them. But his slips of tounge were always found sympathetic by people. Mekanı cennet olsun.

Bazı siyasi görüşlerine katılmasam da sevimli bir adamdı. Dil sürçmeleri gerçekten ona daha bir sempatiklik katıyordu. Ayrıca iyi bir Galatasaraylı´ydı. Böyle hayat dolu bir insanın birdenbire yitip gitmesi insanı gerçekten sarsıyor.

Too bad that he is gone without being able to enjoy the fortune he has made thank to AKP.

That is harsh elifce. He is now in the presence of divine judgement. There is no need to say anything more.

Anyone is free to say what they want to say as long as it doesn´t involve swearings.

I didn´t say you were not free, I said it was not needed. I hope you understand the difference.

You think that it wasn´t needed and I think that it was needed. The difference is clear.

Yes and the difference is also ethically big.

According to you or is there a set of universal ethical laws that I don´t know of?

Durun, siz kardessiniz!!!

There are some Islamic ethical values. In this hadith you can see one of them:

´´Ölülerinizin iyiliklerini anınız, kötülüklerini anmayınız." (Tirmizi)

Mention good deeds of your deceaseds, do not mention their bad deeds.

Muslims accept Islamic ethical values as universal. So according to Muslims there is a set of universal ethical laws. If you don´t know or accept them, it is your problem. I am expressing my thoughts according to this Islamic values not according to me.

So if I`m not a muslim, it`s a problem? Then you will ask why they call you islamofascists.

Lol. So you understood that from this sentence "If you don´t know or accept them, it is your problem." Should I explain everything word by word for you? This sentence means it doesn´t matter if you don´t know  Islamic ethical values or don´t accept them as universal ethical values. As long as I accept(like other muslims) them you can´t blame me speaking without a basis. 

Kapiş? 

I am so sick of simple minded Turkish orientalists. 

I didn`t accuse you of "speaking without a basis". I just told you that your islamic ethical values can`t be universal if they don`t apply to everyone in this universe, which they don`t. But I think you don`t have enough capacity to understand that so there is no point in arguing with you. Bye.

If you didn´t accuse me of speaking without a basis please tell me what does this "according to you" mean in your sentence: According to you or is there a set of universal ethical laws that I don´t know of?

I don´t try to apply my Islamic universal ethics to everybody but if I accept them as divine I must accept them as universal too. So that is a matter of belief not science. If I don´t have enough capacity why I disgrace you again and again? You even run away because of this

Wait 6666 I am coming soon

Her fırsat kollanır ve bulununca îtinâ ile değerlendirilir!

i couldnt make it in ingliş

Polemiksiz hedefe varılmaz

i think of 1001 messages for retirement but i couldnt decided yet.

1001 Nights tales? Involve in a discussion if you are in a rush

no hurry, calm down, slow down, relax, let it flow...

Hyperactivity doesn´t let me

Shame on you boys! What you two do is trolling, taking the piss out of people who do not agree with your views on anything. I write this reluctantly because I know, not to leave you alone, unsupported, the rest of the gang will very soon appear to sing in chorus  

I dont mind keeping quiet about misdeeds of someone who is already passed away, until someone else tries to make me agree that he was one of god´s marvellous perfect creations, and gives me religious examples to prove his point. I just can not take bulshit !

http://sozcu.com.tr/mehmet-ali-birand-hirsiz-mi.html

Nobody tries to make you agree by force. You are free. I can give religious examples to prove my point. You can give your own examples. 

Yahu sizin dilinizden ne ölü ne diri kurtulabiliyor. Kendisini savunamayacak durumda olan bir kişinin arkasından konuşmak bana göre yakışık almaz. Size göre alıyorsa o sizin bileceğiniz iş. Bunu eleştirebilirim ama size zorla kendi fikrimi kabul ettiremem.

Calling deceased people to be "good" in funeral prayers is only a ritual and should be understood as such. Such ceremonies do not clean up legal court rulings or criminal records.

You have no point to prove; using religious examples or not. Leave it at the ceremony that it is. Avoid misleading moslems with false statements.

Ceremony? Lol. Read the hadith again. 

Only idiots need to read Hadith, to decide whether a few hundred people gathered in a funeral can absolve a man convicted of his misdeeds, by shouting "İyi bilirim", when imam asks "merhumu nasıl bilirdiniz ?"

What has happened to rights of orphans about to be evaporated in that affair? WHAT DOES HADITH SAY ABOUT THAT ?

Read the related court orders and sum up the money embezzled; amazing !

Islam is not what you are talking about.

We have a communication problem my friend. You don´t understand what I say.

+1

Adamın devletin parasını çaldığı - en iyi ihtimalle çalınmasına göz yumduğu veya alet olduğu - mahkeme kararı ile  tesbit edilmiş.

Ölünce " Allah rahmet eylesin" de ve sus,,,arkasından yalakalık etmeye, işin içine din, peygamber, hadis karıştırmaya gerek yok.

Cahil yalakalığından vazgeç.

Kendini gözünde büyütme. Benim anlayamayacağım bir şey söylemeye senin kapasiten yetmez.

Ölmüş birisinin yaptığı iyilikleri anmak, kötülükleri anmamak genel bir prensip. Seremoniyle falan da ilgisi yok. Bu kimseyi günahlarından da arıtmaz. İnaçlı bir insan olarak onun şimdi zaten ilahi mahkemenin huzurunda olduğuna ve hesaba çekildiğine inanıyorum. Sen hesaba çekildiğine inanmıyorsan onu istediğin kadar suçla eline ne geçecek?

 Ben kimseye yalakalık da etmiyorum. Sanki yalakalık edince elime birşey geçecek. Ayrıca bazı siyasi görüşlerine katılmadığımı da söyledim.

Mütevazi olmak bir erdemdir. Sizin bu cahilane bilgiçliğiniz beni çileden çıkardığı için kibire kapılıyorum. Size insanca cevap veriyorum anlamıyorsunuz. Sıkıştı mı üslubu da aşağı çekiyorsunuz. Bunlar beni tahrik etmiş olabilir. Sen de pek mütevazi değisin. Son cümlen bunu gösteriyor. Çuvaldızı kendine iğneyi başkasına batır.

Most probably you do not know what are you talking about.

You are not an hadith expert nor a good muslim with a good knowledge of the religion and faith.

The only sunnah is the sunnah of Allah.

Here is the hadith that confirms it:

"Do not write down anything of me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it" (Sahih Muslim)

As for your hadith, I do not know if it is authentic or fabricated (it must be fabricated if it´s narrated by Abu Huraira), but let´s say it is authentic..

 اذكروا  موتاكم   بخير  - (remember-your deads- with benevolence) = ölülerinizi hayırla yâd ediniz - talk good things of your deads

The part you translated as "your deceaseds" is "mevtakum" and indicates the dead people only you knew personally.

Not talking bad things of your deceased father, mother, aunt, uncle, et cetera, is understandable but why should we do the same with all the others?

Why should I pretend to like them just because they are dead? If they did not want my respect in life, they aint gonna get it now. 

Should not we talk bad things also about those evil men like Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Stalin and many others just because they are dead?

How could you explain this "according to your universal islamic ethical values"? 

i dont know mehmet ali birand personally and i dont need to know yet and i am not interested in to know now.

as far as i know he did his job well as a journalist, at least reporting the news part. also i enjoyed his 32. day programs many years ago.

is he a thief, may be, it desnt requires us to ignore or reject him totally. we take the good parts and use it. we leave the bad parts to laws and now to god.

but if there is anything about news he reported, lets discuss it. For example you can say he reported such and such things but they are all lies, he was trying to mislead us...

+1

I doubt that he was a thief. He was framed by the army with LIES and spend many years in fear.

Nothing is worse that using people´s  death for flimsy political purposes.

You also dont need to be a religious person to respect a guy like MAB.

He was highly regarded by the people from his profession and well respected by the people in general.

Wow vona you impressed me. At least your questions were decent. I answered your questions only for this time. Don´t ask me more about theological issues because I quoted a hadith. I will not answer these kind of questions.(I can but I won´t) As you say I am not an expert and I can make mistakes  

Let me recommend you a book I read recently. Yavuz Köktaş - Hadis ve Yorum. It is really a good book.

AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW....BELIEVE IT OR NOT !

http://www.kemalistler.org/emin-colasan-ab-vatandasi-belcikali-mehmet-ali.html