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New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park
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80.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 05 Jun 2013 Wed 08:26 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

How does one try to kill a trained profesional who wears a crash helmet and bullet proof vest; who carrıes a shield in one hand, a gun in his belt and a tear (or pepper) gas dispenser in his other hand ?

Empty beer cans will not be enough. Did demonstrators have attack rifles ?

Photo of a ferocious protestor, attacking 5 poor policemen simultaneously

 

 

 

like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaLEDZaDax8

 

81.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Jun 2013 Wed 10:36 am

A message from Chomsky: "Her yer Taksim, her yer direnis".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCwLfhwRHdQ

82.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Jun 2013 Wed 11:51 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

A message from Chomsky: "Her yer Taksim, her yer direnis".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCwLfhwRHdQ

 

More from Chomsky

http://evrensel.net/news.php?id=58653#.Ua7wWn1fcCs.twitter

83.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Jun 2013 Thu 12:00 pm

Orhan Pamuk joins the critics:

 

"It is a huge mistake by the Erdogan government to have come to the point of uprooting trees in an area that holds special memories for millions of people without asking them. The source of these reckless politics is the authoritative and oppressive tendencies of the government,” Orhan Pamuk said in comments on the incidents.

 

“The fact that Istanbulites do not easily give up their memories and are ready to stage political demonstrations gives me hope for the future,” Pamuk further stated.

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-317450-orhan-pamuk-says-erdogans-government-authoritarian.html

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A majority of Turks are now conscious of the fact that the mass protests that took place in this country in the past were masterminded by deep state elements so that they could hold on to their power at the expense of the elected governments.

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-317498-not-the-deep-state-but-the-streets-pushing-erdogan-to-change.html

 

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I think somehow everybody seems scared about Erdogan coming back and about  what he is going to say.. He may reignite the protests with what he says. Because according to a survey people are protesting because of Erdogan´s authoritarian behavior. (http://www.gercekgundem.com/?p=549259&com=all)

84.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Jun 2013 Thu 10:32 pm

Istanbul Gezi Park plan to proceed - Turkish PM Erdogan

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22801548

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The PM is still defiant!! It is quite difficult to understand what he is trying to do even some AKP supporters are raising their voice..

 

85.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 06 Jun 2013 Thu 10:46 pm

I would like to see Gezipark before they destroy it. Any lady to come with me for a romantic picnic? {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

86.       harp00n
3993 posts
 06 Jun 2013 Thu 10:59 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

I would like to see Gezipark before they destroy it. Any lady to come with me for a romantic picnic? {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

 

Çapkınnn !!!

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87.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Jun 2013 Sun 05:21 pm

After 12 days : Her yer Taksim, her yer direnis.*

Massive rally

Cities nationwide continued to demonstrate in support of the ongoing protests, but Taksim again became the heart of the movement as thousands gathered for a rally scheduled to take place in the afternoon hours of June 9.

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http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/massive-rally-illuminates-taksim-as-protests-continue-in-turkey.aspx?pageID=238&nID=48505&NewsCatID=341

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But how did Erdogan fall into the same trap? An obvious explanation is simply the arrogance of those who have held power for too long. They ignore advice and demonise and underrate their critics. There is nothing very Turkish in this. The same was true of Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair who, like Erdogan, had each won three election victories and were facing an electorate that blamed them for anything that went wrong.

The parallel should be between Turkey and Western Europe, not between Turkey and Middle East states. ..
Erdogan´s mistakes in dealing with the Taksim Square protests and the failures of Turkish foreign policy are not irretrievable ones. But the weaknesses of the Turkish state and the depth of the political divisions within Turkey are becoming more apparent. The demonstrations are also highlighting failings that had previously been masked by Turkey´s economic success at a time when much of Europe is mired in recession. Such impressions are important because the flow of foreign capital into Turkey depends on a sense that the country is stable compared to its neighbours.

Nightly riots in western Turkey, bombs exploding in the south of the country and the possibility of renewed Kurdish unrest in the east is sapping the belief inside and outside Turkey that the country is still one of the world´s success stories.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/erdogans-mishandling-of-protests-has-exposed-the-myth-of-a-stable-turkey-8650706.html

 

*everywhere is Taksim, everywhere is resistance

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88.       Kelowna
375 posts
 09 Jun 2013 Sun 06:57 pm

would you say this is the same as in the 70´s or different?

http://youtu.be/6QK2m4r4NCc



Edited (6/9/2013) by Kelowna

89.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Jun 2013 Sun 07:53 pm

 

Quoting Kelowna

would you say this is the same as in the 70´s or different handsome?

 

It is nothing what so ever  in the 70s of Turkey.It is much more like May 1968 in Paris. Protesters are coming from all parts of the society. They are much more connected with the world- twitter- facebook- and extremely creative. They dont have a political objective and they dont seem to be clear about what they want. But what is clear is that they dont like what they have : A PM who does not respect people´s opinions, rules the country like a dictator, and tries to interfere with people´s lives -make 3 kids, dont drink alcohol etc-

I think what they are doing there in istanbul will be talked alot in the near future.

90.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Jun 2013 Sun 11:31 pm

More about this if anybody wants to know what this is all about and how it is all started :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59XPBtofVGA

http://subjektif.org/protests-in-turkey-the-timeline-and-what-people-on-the-street-want/

http://www.direngeziparki.com/

http://showdiscontent.com/

http://www.narphotos.net/Story/Thumbnail/occupy-gezi-park/109/

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