i am supporting to save that park and all its trees in taksim. i am against the municipality of istanbul to build shopping center whereever they pleases ignoring the public opinion.

 

but at the moment protests evolved into something else noone can describe. people with thick sticks and heavy stones destroying state propery and police cars, trying to kill policemen. some people came with empty beer bottles as if it was banned. some people showing apo posters (abdullah ocalan, leader of pkk terrorist org. ) there are many other strange things going on which i will never support.

 

we wait and see what will happen...

All I can say is this is a big balloon and exaggeration. What kind of violence they did on you in these years? Did they arrested you, tortured you or anyone around you? Are they bombing your house or your city? If you´re a democratic person, you must be respectful for other people´s opinions and their elected government. You´re saying that you´ve been waiting for 3 elections and still no result? Well, those people had been waiting for a few decades. And they were actually suffering from the government. There were no equal rights, no freedom of speech and thought, no freedom of religion. What kind of restrictions or violence have you been exposed recently? Anybody can say anything now and live freely. And people´s life standards increased. How did people posted all those messages while protesting? Many people have smart phones now. They have computers and many other unnecessary electronics. They can sip their coffees in Starbucks, go online on their phones or computers and post messages against government and say "we are not free." 

Just because your ideology is different than other people and their government who was elected by democratic election, doesn´t mean that you can provoke people and do protests, do violent acts on innocent people and police to try to "take over" the government. If you have a problem with the government, you can raise the awareness of the public and on the next elections, you can kick them out. 

By the way, I was really entertained while checking facebook and twitter messages. Most of them were fake and funny. And many people didn´t even think a second and re-posted them like they are correct. They used old pictures such as an injured man from a boat accident and they posted it as the police ran over him by police panzer. Another one was showing thousands of poeple were on the Bosphorus Bridge like it´s been recently shot. However, it was also a photo from an annual marathon a few years back. There are many others like these. And because of that the situation seemed like there´s a war going between rioters and police and police was using "chemical weapons" and killing poeple. Those pictues are not proving that they´re using Agent Orange because there´s nothing written on those bullets and if the police used it, those people wouldn´t be alive by now. 

I am not denying the fact that the police acted wrong at first, but the response from people was extreme. And a simple tree saving protest immediately turned into an anti-government protest quickly, mostly because those fake news. Of course, there were many provocators who did a good job and made it bigger. They also hid between people and provocate them, and they damaged properties, attacked other people and the police. They also make people think that the police is their enemy(!) and they proudly upload videos and pictures about it. I wonder what would they do, if their house was robbed, or if they were beaten, hurt, etc. Would they call the police after all these? 

I say, thankfully there´s no other problems in Turkey, such as terrorism, economy, or others and when they see a tiny problem, they see it as an opportunity and turn it into a big pointless riot. But in the end, it will stop tomorrow because people will need to go to school and work on Monday morning and all will be same again. 

I´m sorry, it was such a long post. Have a great Sunday!

agent orange was most certainly used in istanbul

if agent orange was used you would have serious injuries as exposure to agent orange causes seriouse blistering and this does not seem to have happened.

what was used was a tear gas with an orange die in it, if the Turkish authoreties would have used agent orange they would have had the rest of the world´s governing bodies up their peverbial asses.

if agent orange was used you would have serious injuries as exposure to agent orange causes seriouse blistering and this does not seem to have happened since agent orange is a defoliant

what was used was a tear gas with an orange die in it, if the Turkish authoreties would have used agent orange they would have had the rest of the world´s governing bodies up their peverbial asses.

It is reported "an orange colored gas was being fired"

 

 

I know, I said I´m not denying that the police acted wrong at first. But this after that some violent provocators saw an opportunity and made this a chaos.

I don´t think the police would just stop against those who did these damages:

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This is only a few. I saw on the news this evning that in İzmir and Antalya, they damaged many properties inluding shops, banks, and other properties. And there are hundreds coming towards them with stones, bottles and other heavy things to throw and hurt. That´s just crazy! 

 

its a lower grade of it. not same as the one used in vietnam. there are pictures of the canisters and the containers.

 

agent orange aside, they are using outdates gas canisters, which is technically a chemical weapon.

 

 

 

How does one try to kill a trained profesional who wears a crash helmet and bullet proof vest; who carrıes a shield in one hand, a gun in his belt and a tear (or pepper) gas dispenser in his other hand ?

Empty beer cans will not be enough. Did demonstrators have attack rifles ?

Photo of a ferocious protestor, attacking 5 poor policemen simultaneously