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Senin ya da sen ?
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10.       kertmeyenkele
100 posts
 27 Aug 2015 Thu 08:13 pm

 

Quoting Abla

 

 

Yes but don´t they teach us time expressions are different? And this holds for DIK based structures also?

 

Sen sınavı geçtiğin gün/zaman...

Sen sınavı geçtiğinde...

Sen yazarken...

Sen gelince...

 

Sen sınavı geçtiğin gün-ü/zaman-ı hatırlıyorum
Sen-in sınavı geçtiğin gün-ü/zaman-ı hatırlıyorum

 

Second one sounds better to me

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11.       JNQ
465 posts
 27 Aug 2015 Thu 08:43 pm

This is all higher Turkish science for me so I don´t have a clue what you are talking about, but I was wondering this: 

 

Senin sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim = When you passed your exam I was on holiday

Sen sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim = When you passed the exam I was on holiday

 

?

Whereby in the second sentense ´Sen´ could be omitted? 

Could anyone explain?

12.       harp00n
3993 posts
 27 Aug 2015 Thu 08:58 pm

 

Quoting JNQ

This is all higher Turkish science for me so I don´t have a clue what you are talking about, but I was wondering this: 

 

Senin sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim = When you passed your exam I was on holiday

Sen sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim = When you passed the exam I was on holiday

 

?

Whereby in the second sentense ´Sen´ could be omitted? 

Could anyone explain?

 

What have you done ??? {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

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13.       gugukkusu
126 posts
 27 Aug 2015 Thu 09:34 pm

 

Quoting JNQ

This is all higher Turkish science for me so I don´t have a clue what you are talking about, but I was wondering this: 

 

Senin sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim = When you passed your exam I was on holiday

Sen sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim = When you passed the exam I was on holiday

 

?

Whereby in the second sentense ´Sen´ could be omitted? 

Could anyone explain?

Exactly. "Senin" and "Sen" can be omitted in these sentences. However, note that "senin sınav" is a colloquial way of saying "sınavın" or "senin sınavın", omitting senin will actually make the sentence grammatical but also change the meaning slightly.

(Senin) sınavını geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim= When you passed your exam I was on holiday

Sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim= When you passed the exam I was on holiday.

 

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14.       JNQ
465 posts
 27 Aug 2015 Thu 09:57 pm

 

Quoting harp00n

 

 

What have you done ??? {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

I don´t know, what HAVE I done???? 

 

15.       JNQ
465 posts
 27 Aug 2015 Thu 09:58 pm

 

Quoting gugukkusu

 

Exactly. "Senin" and "Sen" can be omitted in these sentences. However, note that "senin sınav" is a colloquial way of saying "sınavın" or "senin sınavın", omitting senin will actually make the sentence grammatical but also change the meaning slightly.

(Senin) sınavını geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim= When you passed your exam I was on holiday

Sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim= When you passed the exam I was on holiday.

 

Thank you so much

 

16.       matdamon
74 posts
 27 Aug 2015 Thu 10:49 pm

 

Quoting gugukkusu

 

Sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim= When you passed the exam I was on holiday.

 

 

How do you know here that it is a "you" ?!!

You have to put "sen" here don´t you ?!

Sen sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim

17.       JNQ
465 posts
 27 Aug 2015 Thu 11:02 pm

 

Quoting matdamon

 

 

How do you know here that it is a "you" ?!!

You have to put "sen" here don´t you ?!

Sen sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim

 

Geçtiğinde says it´s you

18.       gugukkusu
126 posts
 28 Aug 2015 Fri 12:17 am

 

Quoting matdamon

 

 

How do you know here that it is a "you" ?!!

You have to put "sen" here don´t you ?!

Sen sınavı geçtiğinde ben tatildeydim

 

You are right, the sentence is ambiguous, it can be sen or o. You can put the pronoun to avoid the ambiguity, but as long as the meaning(i.e. the person you are referring to) is clear from the context, it won´t be necessary.

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19.       harp00n
3993 posts
 28 Aug 2015 Fri 12:23 am

 

Quoting JNQ

 

I don´t know, what HAVE I done???? 

 

 

The explanation will continue one week more...  {#emotions_dlg.get_you}

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20.       matdamon
74 posts
 28 Aug 2015 Fri 12:36 am

Yok merak etme, artık herkes için çok açık bence {#emotions_dlg.lol} ! 

 

Don´t worry, I think it´s very clear for everyone now !

 

ÇOK teşekkür ederim {#emotions_dlg.flowers}

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