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1.       Marinka
140 posts
 18 Jul 2006 Tue 08:21 pm

If there are Rusian people, they'll probably give more examples. I just wanted to write here something similar that i've found between Turkish and Russian languages..
For example a Turkish word 'durak' is 'fool' in Russian! (every Russian laughs whenthey hear that)
Tur 'kulak' is Rus 'fist'
kabak-->bar, (squash would be kabaçok!!!
kanat--> thick rope
karpuz sounds like karapuz which is a "little kid, baby"
and such words as 'özüm' is 'izüm' in Russian
pilav-->plov

these are just the few i could think of right now. if anybody else knows words that sound like words in another language, please share!

2.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 18 Jul 2006 Tue 10:00 pm

If the Russians laugh hearing "durak" in the sense of "a stop" not "a fool" then think what a Polish person's reaction is to hear the word "kupa" only to realise that it means "a cup" not "poo" as it does in Polish. Also, a quite common Turkish name - Burak in Polish means "beetroot" but its slang use is "a hillbilly"

3.       Marinka
140 posts
 19 Jul 2006 Wed 11:31 am

Thank you for sharing! Since I'm a linguist i'm very interested in the etymology of languages, and their integration with one another. Are there other linguists here? Would love to know you!

4.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 19 Jul 2006 Wed 11:38 am

I am a linguist in a way. I did my MA thesis in English semantics at university but I have always been more interested in phonetics and grammar than semantics. Still, if you need any help with your research, I'll gladly do it.

5.       _Canlı
175 posts
 19 Jul 2006 Wed 11:49 am

i believe erdinç has made a list of some similer words between Türkçe and Arapçe,i don't know if he made with other languages too or not ,look it up,you will find the Forum here some where

6.       erdinc
2151 posts
 19 Jul 2006 Wed 02:31 pm

Quoting _Canlı:

i believe erdinç has made a list of some similer words between Türkçe and Arapçe,i don't know if he made with other languages too or not ,look it up,you will find the Forum here some where



Greetings,
According TDK there are only 39 such words. Bye.

borç
borş
boyar
brıçka
çar
çareviç
çariçe
dobra
Duma
glasnost
haraşo
izbe
kaleska
kapik
kapuska
kazaska
kolhoz
kopek
kulak
Leh
matruşka
mazot
Menşevik
Moskof
moskof
mujik
piruhi
pogrom
razmol
ruble
şapka
semaver
sovhoz
talika
tayga
telatin
troyka
votka
zanka

7.       Marinka
140 posts
 20 Jul 2006 Thu 09:05 pm

Oh my God, thanks erdinç! I never knew tere were so many, so what do they mean? are they borrowings?
btw, another funny couple of words -
tabak - (Ru) tabacco
bardak - 'a mess'

8.       aslan2
507 posts
 14 Aug 2006 Mon 02:30 pm

Quoting Marinka:

Oh my God, thanks erdinç! I never knew tere were so many, so what do they mean? are they borrowings?
btw, another funny couple of words -
tabak - (Ru) tabacco
bardak - 'a mess'



Yes, they are borrowings from Russian. I had read soewhere that Russian has more Turkish borrowings (more than 2 thousand) but I don't what they are. Maybe I know one

Çay -- Tea should be a borrowing from Turkish.

As for a funny example. I heard this from an American guy.

He called a company in Turkey to talk to somebody. A lady picked up the phone and he said to her that he wanted to speak to some guy. And the lady kept saying "Evet, fakat" (Yea, but) in Turkish. An the guy misunderstood that she kept saying (evet, f**k it) in English.

And yet another.
Once a Turkish girl from Bulgaria went to a cafe in Bursa.The waiter asked her "what do you like to drink?" and she answered "bana bi sok lutfen". "sok" means "juice" in Bulgarian.But in Turkish when you found a sentence like that it means in slang "f**k me once please".

9.       SineNomine
81 posts
 14 Aug 2006 Mon 07:39 pm

Quoting aslan2:



Oooh beware of our resident Lioness. She is on holiday sharpening her claws, but when she returns and sees your nick...

10.       susie k
1330 posts
 14 Aug 2006 Mon 08:17 pm

eh?

11.       aslan2
507 posts
 15 Aug 2006 Tue 12:00 pm

Quoting SineNomine:

Quoting aslan2:



Oooh beware of our resident Lioness. She is on holiday sharpening her claws, but when she returns and sees your nick...



What's wrong with it?

12.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Aug 2006 Tue 12:34 pm

Quoting aslan2:

Quoting SineNomine:

Quoting aslan2:



Oooh beware of our resident Lioness. She is on holiday sharpening her claws, but when she returns and sees your nick...



What's wrong with it?



Oh SineNomine was just making a joke There's nothing wrong with your nick.. But there's another member on this website and her nick is Aslan.. so she was just joking with you

13.       tsarine
9 posts
 15 Aug 2006 Tue 12:58 pm

also saray in russian means a small house, used for houshold purposes, like garage, maybe it was borrowed from turkish in a wrong way

14.       aslan2
507 posts
 16 Aug 2006 Wed 08:34 am

I have read in a paper that also "tamam" is used in Russian.

I have also read that some famous Russian names like "Rahmaninov" and "Yeltsin" are traced back to Turkish roots.

15.       bliss
900 posts
 16 Aug 2006 Wed 01:24 pm

I see many Rusian people on our site and wanted to help little bit (I hope).

There are many words we use in Russian and Turkish.

Letter "A"

Abajur - абажур (abajur) - lampshade
Afganistan - Афганистан (Afganistan)
afiş - афиша (afisha) - poster
Afrika - Африка (Afrika)
ajur - ажур (ajur) - delicate, lace
akademik - академик (akademik) - academic
akordeon - акордеон (akordeon) - accordion
akort - аккорд (akkord) - tune
akrobat - акробат (akrobat) - acrobat
akrobatik - акробатика (akrobatika) - acrobatics
akropol - акрополь (akropol') - acropolis
aksesuar - аксессуар (aksesuar) - accessory
aksiyom - аксиома (aksioma) - axiom
aksiyoner - акционер (aktsioner) - shareholder
aktif - активный (aktivniy) - active
aktör - актёр (aktyor) - actor
aktris -актриса (aktrisa) - actress
aktüel - актуальный (aktual'niy) - current
akustik - акустика (akustika) - acustic(s)
akvariyum - аквариум ( akvariyum) - aquarium
albüm - альбом (al'bom) - album
alerji - аллергия (allergiya) - allergy
alkol - алкоголь (alkogol') - alcohol
alkolik - алкоголик (alkogolik) - alcoholic
alkolizm - алкоголизм (alkogolizm) - alcoholizm
Allah - Аллах (Allakh)
alo! - алло (allo) - hello (on the phone)
alüminyum - алюминий ( alyuminiy) - aluminium
ambar - амбар (ambar) - granary
Amerika - Америка (Amerika)
amfiteatr - амфитеатр (amfiteatr) - amphiteatre
amin - аминь (amin') - amen
amiral - адмирал ( admiral) - admiral
amper - ампер (amper) - ampere
ampermetre - амперметр (ampermetr) - ammeter
analiz - анализ (analiz) - analysis
ananas - ананас (ananas) - pineapple
anarşist - анархист (anarkhist) - anarchist
anarşizm - анархизм (anarkhizm) - anarchism
anatomi - анатомия (anatomiya) - anatomy
anekdot - анекдот (anekdot) - anecdote
anestezi - анестезия (anesteziya) - anesthesia
anket - анкета (anketa) - public survey, questionary
anonim - анонимный (anonimniy) - anonymous
antarktik - Антарктика (Antarktika)
anten - антена (antena) - antenna
antibiyotik - антибиотик (antibiotik) - antibiotic
antifiriz - антифриз (antifriz) - antifreeze
antipati - антипатия (antipatiya) - antipathy
antiseptik - антисептический (antisepticheskiy)-antiseptic
antoloji - антология (antologiya) - anthology
antrakt - антракт (antrakt) - intermission
antropoloji - антропология (antropologiya) - antropology
apandisit - аппендицит (apenditsit) - appendix
apolet - эполеты (epoleti) - epaulet
apse - абсцесс (abstcess) - abscess
arena - арена (arena) - arena
aristokrat - аристократ (aristokrat) - aristocrat
aritmetik - арифметика (arifmetika) - arithmetic
arkeolog - археолог (arkheolog) - archeologist
arktik - Арктика (Arktika) - arctic
armonika - гармоника (garmonika)
artist - артист (artist) - actor
asbest - асбест (asbest) - asbestos
asetilen - ацитилен (atsitilen) - acetylene
aseton - ацетон (atceton) - acetone
asfalt - асфальт (asfal't) - asphalt
asistan - ассистент (asistent) - assistant
aspirin - аспирин (aspirin) - aspirin
astronomi - астрономия (astronomiya) - astronomy
astronot - астронавт (astronavt) - astrounaut
atlet - атлет (atlet) - athlete
atmosfer - атмосфера (atmosfera) - atmosphere
atom - атом (atom) - atom
avans - аванс (avans) - advance
ayva - айва (ayva) - quince
azot - азот (azot) - nitrogen

16.       efendim
61 posts
 25 Aug 2008 Mon 09:34 pm

 

Quoting tsarine

also saray in russian means a small house, used for houshold purposes, like garage, maybe it was borrowed from turkish in a wrong way

 

 Saray is a Persian word in Turkish, in other Turkic languages and in Russian as well.

17.       doudi94
845 posts
 25 Aug 2008 Mon 09:51 pm

I think all languages have borrowings, like for example, Turkish has 6000 arabic words in it, and it also ahs a lot of persian words in it i think, and in arabic i was soo surprised how many turkish words we have!Its so weird, same with french(arabic),a nd english ahs alot of borrowings from arabic too, (theses are the only languages i know, thats why im giving these examples ), so Thta measns all languages are made up if each other 

18.       si++
3785 posts
 27 Aug 2008 Wed 07:58 am

 

Quoting doudi94

.... and in arabic i was soo surprised how many turkish words we have! ...

 

Can you give some examples?

 

I know that there are some Arabic words invented by Turks.

 

Cumhuriyet = Republic is a Turkish invention for example but it´s all Arabic.

19.       Delidolu
344 posts
 27 Aug 2008 Wed 11:27 am

Most of these words derive from ancient greek-latin-arab and farsi I believe.Acrobat for instance,is made of two greek words- akri/akro meaning "edge"  and vato meaning  "walk/step".Actually,comparing languages is soooo interesting,because it helps you understand better history and all the links between different cultures.

20.       doudi94
845 posts
 27 Aug 2008 Wed 04:53 pm

 

Quoting si++

Can you give some examples?

 

I know that there are some Arabic words invented by Turks.

 

Cumhuriyet = Republic is a Turkish invention for example but it´s all Arabic.

 

okay, sure theres a lot! like in egypt we say oda (room), and theres mühendis, zafer,, no wait those are arbic that turks use(i think) şeker,eczane,özür,vatan,madem,aynı, sefer, harita, aile,mimar,heap,mümkün,hükümet,rahat,abla,ektisadi,,dakika,seniye,kitap,defter,çorap,çorba,mana,mevsim,manzara,tam,sokak(we pronounce it zokak)terzi,ceket,ihtra,ihtram,kom,için,isim,hafiza,rüya,saat,tamam,memnun,manzara,cami,patates,raf,resim,sade,bakkal,tarih,hisset,dayima(we add n to the end)ciddi,karar,zaman,fincan,kahve,çay,müddet,şart,haber,ömür,lazim,emin,araba,hediye.

 

 

theses are only the things i know from my mind, im sure there are much more (im not sure if all theses are turkish and we took from them or theyre arabic and they took from us :S)

21.       Emil Erman
118 posts
 02 Sep 2008 Tue 07:15 pm

The answer is simple, if they respect the laws of consonants and vowels harmony they are most likely to be pure Turkihs words, otherwise they are borrowings from other languages.

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