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10.       IZMIR060406
194 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 03:09 pm

Oh This is so upsetting to hear
I really do hope this Turkish man is genuine ... it would be so awful for your daughter... and also for you to stand around and see her heart breaking.

I hope it's all ok for her. And you just sound like the perfect, caring parent. ... good on you !

11.       erdinc
2151 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 03:23 pm

Don't send any money and ignore this person. You will only experience more problems and more headache by keeping in contact.

12.       Chantal
587 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 03:26 pm

Sometimes easier said than done though.. but it's indeed the best thing to do.. There are so many good Turkish guys, but unfortunately also so many bad ones..

13.       Seticio
550 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 03:46 pm

I don't understand those Turkish men who ask their foreign gilfriends for money. Do they have no pride? My boyfriend would never ask me for money, he is to proud for it, he says that is he was healthy and young, even if his family was poor, he can earn money himself and look after me.

14.       SERA_2005
668 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 03:55 pm

I hate to say it but i have to agree with the general theme of the thread.Don't send any money or phones etc.Unfortunately this is a common trend...asking for money and such i mean.These guys are normally on terrible wages but are not short of charm.its sad to see what lengths they will go to for money etc.i have experienced this myself and see it all the time in the resorts.

15.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 04:36 pm

I am very sorry for your daughter. She should decide what to do. In any case, she should not send the money because, if they stay in touch, it will give him the feeling he has her under control. He might really be a good, genuine guy who réally just needed the money and seriously meant to pay it back, but sometimes an event like this, can cause a change in the person and will make him 'greedy' and 'overruling'.

I personally don't think you should drop the guy off in one second. She should make clear to him that she likes him, but can't send him any money: she doesn't really make her own living and it's not fair to ask her parents to pay her boyfriend, as his life is his own responsibility and not yours.

By making clear that you are really not willing to send money, but he stays in touch.. maybe he might understnad that he shouldn't ask such things. By always quitting the contact immediately, he'll never learn. Maybe he never will and maybe I'm just too positive.. but as you say, you've met the guy yourself and I'm sure you are not too naive yourself.

Erdinç is right though, it really might cause more problems if you keep involved. But if this is going on, you can always quit the contact.

Also, the phone-thign is a good 'test'. Turkish bfs are very caring and they really want to know where their girlfriends are and they will want to be there for them always. So their phone will be reachable almost anytime. (unless in a bus or soemthing, where phones are forbidden). If she can barely ever reach him immediately, i'd think twice myself too. I don't know if he speaks English or not, but if he doesn't even really try to learn English..

On this website I have seen that teh loves that have most chance to survive, were genuine from the start and both sides are trying to learn English and Turkish to at least overcome communication-problems.


Last thing I agree with all the other members.I think it's a good thing you tried to find information abotu this as a parent. She might be heartbroken for a while, but if you hadn't done this, she might get heartbroken ánd pennyless at the same time.

I wish her good luck. Maybe she'd like to be a member of this website as well. There ar emany girls like her out here and everybody here is willing to help. I found this site very helpful as I made many friends, improved both my English and Turkish and learnt a lot about Turkish culture.

16.       erdinc
2151 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 04:42 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

He might really be a good, genuine guy who réally just needed the money and seriously meant to pay it back



If he says he will pay back then you should be more suspicious. Saying that he will pay back means only that you will have a problem that will last for two years. He will continuously say he will pay back. He will say "I will pay back when I get my new job which starts in two months" or "when I will get the the money somebody owns me" or "when I sell a piece of land" or "when my employer pays me the long expected bonus" etc. etc.

You will never get your money money back and will feel like a fool for more than a year until you give up.

Trust me. Don't send anything and don't keep in contact. Run a mile while you can.

17.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 04:47 pm

I don't know if he said he will pay back I just kept the possibility open that it is a good guy.

I just gave Kadir 80 euros But that was because I left them there in summer so that I would not spend them myself here in Holland.. and as he has to pay for my rent starting from tomorrow, he can put that together with the money my dad will send

18.       erdinc
2151 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:04 pm

If he really needed the money and was ready to pay back why doesn't he go to a bank? If you have a good credit history or a turstfull income then you should go to a bank and get a credit or get a credit card.

If you don't have these then you can not guarantee that you will pay back a friend on time either.

The difference is that the bank will ask back for the money and the person will not be able to say "I will pay back in two months" and after two months "I will pay back next month" and so on.

Isn't it meaningless not to go to a bank and ask people for money and make them suspicious of yourself. There is every reason to be suspicious in this case.

I remember many topics on this issue in our translation forum. I wish I could find some of them now to show you how frustrated foreign women were when they were fooled.

19.       Selcan
5 posts
 23 Aug 2006 Wed 05:51 pm

I have only wrıtten once on the forum but I felt I had to answer thıs mum. I have just fınıshed workıng 4 years ın tourızm and lıvıng ın Marmarıs. (I am now at a dıfferent resort thıs year) but ıts the same story over and over agaın wıth these guys. I am marrıed to an Arab guy and spend the wınters lıvıng ın a vıllage and these people are very poor, not all but some very very poor. The guys who work the seasons have to try and make a lot of money to see them through the wınter and also gıve the famıly money.
But before condemmıng most of them lets just look at the western women that come here and gıve them money, buy them jewellery, cars etc. Its because of these stupıd (sorry but theres really no other word) women that ıt ıs very hard to know ıf the man u meet ıs true or not. It ıs normal for a Turkısh guy ın tourızm to ask for money, mobıle phones etc because I know for a fact they cant see anythıng wrong ın ıt, and as some1 saıd on the forum some wıll have a few they are gettıng money off. I dont know how long your daughter has known thıs young man but you are rıght to be concerned and to safeguard her because I have seen women bled of all theır money here ın Turkey. The sun, sea and holıday are wonderful but lıke anywhere else thıs can be a very hard country to lıve ın. Holıday resorts are not real places, ıts paradıse for 1-2-3 weeks. But there are some happy endıngs as you can see on the forum. I am very happy myself, we dont have a lot but we are happy. Sorry to go on but I have lıved Turkey over 4 years and travelled extensıvely and lıved ın vıllage. Out of resort areas you can meet some of the kındest and nicest people. Hope all goes well. And just a thought, ıf every woman stopped sendıng money and mobıle and whatever else ıt would make lıfe a lot easıer to be able to sort out the trıcksters!

Selcan
Selcan

20.       KeithL
1455 posts
 24 Aug 2006 Thu 12:17 am

Please let us know if we were correct or incorrect

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