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What are the Chances?
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24 Aug 2006 Thu 11:22 pm |
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24 Aug 2006 Thu 11:37 pm |
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aahhh christine it seems that all the negatives here are getting to you! dont let that happen....trust what you have 
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24 Aug 2006 Thu 11:50 pm |
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Dear Christine!
I am happy for you! Falling in love is a wonderful thing...no matter what will follow. I wish I could say that relationships with american/european women and turks more often have happy endings than sad endings, but so far that is not my experience...but I do wish for you that you and your love is part of the happy ending stories! I have no reason what so ever to wish you otherwise. I think that from the little glimts you have shared with me you two seem to have a nice form of deeper communication which most of the couples I have seen and heard about have lacked. A common language...and open minds...are in my opinion a good start...as well as the, oh so important, love chemistry!
I wish you the best! ...and as I use to say to my friends: ...we fall in love so seldom in life...so when we do...go for it...but don´t drop your brain because of it!
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24 Aug 2006 Thu 11:55 pm |
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Quoting Aslan: Dear Christine!...and as I use to say to my friends: ...we fall in love so seldom in life...so when we do...go for it...but don´t drop your brain because of it! |
Word up Aslan! 
You go for it girl, I wish you all the best. If it turns out to be not what you expected, at least you tried and enjoyed, and you will never have to ask yourself "what if.."
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25 Aug 2006 Fri 12:18 am |
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I think I can say I understand you. From reading all the negative stories on the internet and seeing the fact I was so madly, crazily, deeply , everythingly in love.. i wondered how realistic I was. And then I'm just 18. I started feelign such a fool for a long time. I projected each kind of negativity upon Kadir, I always got scared if he asked me where I had been, and I asked myself if this was the sign that he would become more and more jealous over time. If he said that he didn't like that i went out at night till 4.30, I got pissed and projected my 'suppresses women fears' on him. But ey, I'd hate it if he did the same.
These are small examples, but for about 2 months they became a big issue to me, in which I even thought of giving it all up. I was scared that what I believed in so strongly, would turn out to be untrue. I was scared he'd be like all the others. I even asked him if he knew the book/film 'Not without my daughter' about Betty Mahmoody who is married to an Iranian man, with a good doctor job in the USA and a lovely daugther Mahtob. On holiday in Iran, he kidnaps his daughter and turns his wife's live into a nightmare. Out of nothing. My fear gave me the guts to ask Kadir about this. He was extremely hurt and disappointed.
I regretted my question and started thinking again. Even if Kadir would be different thatn what I really believe he is: each memory I have is worth a lifetime pleasure. No matter if 'us together' is lifetime or not, he gave me memories no one has given me before.
Look where I am now: in a month I will live in my appartment in Izmir, close to Kadir. I'm not scared anymore. I'm in love and I care about nothing. I can say that at least I tried. But I believe it will work out fine.
I agree with Aslan. From what I've seen from your posts, I believe in it. I feel weird saying this, I'm just 18 and have had no previous experience on love or life. But still. Something tells me you two are going fine. It's the journey that counts, not the target. The target is worthless if the journey wasn't full of love, wisdom and joy. So far I experienced so much joy and love, and wisdom will surely come. I have an ending on this road, and I hope Kadir will be there. But each step I take with him, is one step enjoyed.
Christine, don't compare yourself to what you read on the internet. Don't try to be sooo realistic like society teaches you to be. You're in love and so is he. Go for it  .
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25 Aug 2006 Fri 12:25 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: I'm just 18 and have had no previous experience on love or life. But still. Something tells me you two are going fine. It's the journey that counts, not the target. The target is worthless if the journey wasn't full of love, wisdom and joy. So far I experienced so much joy and love, and wisdom will surely come. I have an ending on this road, and I hope Kadir will be there. But each step I take with him, is one step enjoyed. |
deli_kizin - from what i have read in the posts you are wise beyond your years...much more so than many who are far older than you 
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25 Aug 2006 Fri 03:21 am |
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Thank you for all of the encouraging feedback!
The only problem is that I love him so much it hurts. Really. I am a pretty successful teacher and he is a waiter. He works six days a week- 13 hours a day, but calls me every night before falling asleep.
I am struggling so much with material success in America and love in Turkey.
I don't care about money. I study Turkish like a fiend for our time together. I am returning in December for only ten days, and again next summer for 2 months.
I've gone mad over him. Any rational thoughts out here?
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25 Aug 2006 Fri 03:44 am |
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Is anyone rational where love is concerned? Why be rational!?!?! Love is so amazing when we get it right and your heart knows if it is right. The fact that it hurts only confirms that. And it sounds like he hurts as much as you do....I know it is not cheap to call nightly. Hang in there.
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25 Aug 2006 Fri 04:42 am |
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Selam:
Oh!! its it so hard to turkish vist America? I am sad to hear that, as I to have a friend I wish could come for Xtmas.......thats breaks my heart... why its that so, because of terrorism...not everybody its..besides the planet should welcome every men taht wanst to travel from one country to the other...land it to all to enjoy.
kenedine iyi bak.
Ozur dilerim
güle güle
ederim
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25 Aug 2006 Fri 04:38 pm |
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Quoting christine_usa: Thank you for all of the encouraging feedback!
The only problem is that I love him so much it hurts. Really. I am a pretty successful teacher and he is a waiter. He works six days a week- 13 hours a day, but calls me every night before falling asleep.
I am struggling so much with material success in America and love in Turkey.
I don't care about money. I study Turkish like a fiend for our time together. I am returning in December for only ten days, and again next summer for 2 months.
I've gone mad over him. Any rational thoughts out here? |
I'm sure you feel the longing all day and can't wait to read his texts, to call him and hear his voice, and count the days till you go again, and realize those days are too many to count.
But you and Omer are quite 'new'. You haven't been together for so long that you change your life on it, if you already have a steady life in the US, right ?
So be happy with your material succes an dlove in Turkey: with the money you make and the indepence you have, you can visit him more often than many of the girls out here can
You can visit him often enough to decide whether it is worth to change your material status into a maybe less wealthy life, but more filled with love.
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25 Aug 2006 Fri 04:52 pm |
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Quoting christine_usa: I returned from Turkey after a month of study(2weeks), pleasure (2 weeks), and am enamored by the hisory, cultue, and coexistance of ancient and modern.
I fell madly in love, and talk every day to my love, but am struggling with the reality of all of this.
I read on this site that hundreds of western women fall in love with Turkish men. I've read about the pitfalls and the postives. Please tell me there are more positives than pitfalls......
Regardless- I'm madly in love. Usually I am a rational person, but he captured my heart. Finanaces are a huge issue as is visiting.
Is it really true that Turks cannot visit the USA on a tourist visa without extraordinary research into their past, employment history, financial status etc...
If so- it is ridiculous- I came to Turkey- no VISA- and purchased entry for one for a mere $20 USD- prior to entering customs...
How can we (USA) restrict Turkish immigration in such a manner?
As a teacher in one of the most prestigious high schools in America, I am working to improve this situationj.
Sincerely,
Christine |
hi christina
happy that u r in love! yes thats true its not that easy for Turkish people to visit America, if u r sure that he really loves u there is no pitfalls! by the way Turkish men really cares woman ( by the way i m not a man i m woman )its true that many turkish men seems as if really love coz of the financial matters but u said u r a teacher and u must know people well! i m repeating myself if u trust him do marry him asap!
wish u luck and love
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25 Aug 2006 Fri 05:45 pm |
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Quote: Is it really true that Turks cannot visit the USA on a tourist visa without extraordinary research into their past, employment history, financial status etc... |
This is completely true. There is even much more than this. I have heard that somebody wasn't given a visa because of buying books about İslam on Amazon.com. I wouldn't be surprised if the US Government tracks this kind information.
I think they keep extensive records of people who enter the US. They are requesting your homeland address, phone number, credit card number etc. from the airline company. This has been a conflict between the EU and US since these are confidential information.
I think they also take pictures of you and they take fingerprints and DNA sample if you are a Turkish national.
The US is the last place I would want to live or travel as a tourist or as a student.
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25 Aug 2006 Fri 06:19 pm |
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I am really shocked. I am searching the WEB for a site that lists the requirements for a VISA. I really have no understanding of why Turkey is so restricted. Just because it is an Islamic country? It's so secular. DNA sample?
I just can't wrap my brain around this.
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26 Aug 2006 Sat 12:32 am |
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Quoting erdinc: Quote: Is it really true that Turks cannot visit the USA on a tourist visa without extraordinary research into their past, employment history, financial status etc... |
This is completely true. There is even much more than this. I have heard that somebody wasn't given a visa because of buying books about İslam on Amazon.com. I wouldn't be surprised if the US Government tracks this kind information.
I think they keep extensive records of people who enter the US. They are requesting your homeland address, phone number, credit card number etc. from the airline company. This has been a conflict between the EU and US since these are confidential information.
I think they also take pictures of you and they take fingerprints and DNA sample if you are a Turkish national.
The US is the last place I would want to live or travel as a tourist or as a student. |
Believe me I'm an American and they do not keep all of these records. My turkish friends never went through this and I have friends who are governmental officials here. Also, it is not very difficult at all to get a visa, a friend of mine just came over from Ankara and had no problems. Sorry to hear Erdinc your dislike for America, we need good Turkish teachers here in the states. Maybe you know some.
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26 Aug 2006 Sat 12:42 am |
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Hey Christine!
I totally understand ur feelings.
Im so deeply and madly in love with one Turkish Guy Also...He's 29 and im 22.
He works at one Resort...I have my own Bussines Company.
And i've read also those web sites and stories u talk about, 4 example : EnglishGirlfriendsofTurkishMen , Turkish Love Rats, and so on....heheh actually i have joined like 5 or 6 Different sites  And i know there's a lot of scary and sad stories..but if u see there are also soooo beautiful stories and people in love who are now married and still together and going strong.
U just trust ur feelings and give him a chance to prove he's honest with u and loves u sincerely....Plus seems to me that u 're both really in love.
Just enjoy ur time with him...and also ENJOY HAVING SUCH A GREAT GUY ON UR LIFE....(thats what im doing hehehe) and let's see what happens.
Cya!
Paola
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