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" I have had" " I would have" "I had" " I am having" HELP!
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1.       Dilara
1153 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 01:06 am

Hi all!
I have been studying turkish for a while but still have problems with these!
" I have" , "I have had" , "I would have" I will have" in short , the verbal tenses of "have" are a problem for me, that is to say : "Var and Yok" I just know how to use the present tense :
" Bir arabam var" and "Bir arkadaşım yok"
Please, help me and give me examples of usage. Thanks a lot!!
Dilara.

2.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 01:25 am

You can add the simple past suffix to make past possessives

For example:
İki arabam vardı - I had two cars (literally "my two cars existed")

3.       Dilara
1153 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 01:37 am

Quoting bod:

You can add the simple past suffix to make past possessives

For example:
İki arabam vardı - I had two cars (literally "my two cars existed")



Thank you! but what about " I will have a car" and " I have had a car", "I would have a car"?
Selamlar,
Dilara.

4.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 01:47 am

Quoting Dilara:

Quoting bod:

You can add the simple past suffix to make past possessives

For example:
İki arabam vardı - I had two cars (literally "my two cars existed")



Thank you! but what about " I will have a car" and " I have had a car", "I would have a car"?



I don't think Turkish distinguishes between "I had a car" and "I have had a car" - both are arabam vardı.

No idea about "I would have a car" although I suspect it requires a conditional suffix as it is not a complete sentence on it's own - It needs to be "I would have a car if ..."

I think - but am not sure - that "I will have a car" is arabam var olacağım

5.       impulse
298 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 04:38 am

I have a car = Bir arabam var.
I had a car / I have had a car = Bir arabam vardı
I will have a car.. = Bir arabam olacak
I would have a car.. = Bir arabam olabilirdi

6.       natiypuspi
436 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 06:06 am

And 'Bir arabam varacak'? ....Is it ok? :-S

7.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 07:26 am

Quoting natiypuspi:

And 'Bir arabam varacak'? ....Is it ok? :-S


That is wrong, it must be bir arabam olacak

By the way, there is a verb varmak, so if you say: arabam varacak that means another thing, not "I will have"

8.       aslan2
507 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 09:21 am

Quoting Dilara:

Hi all!
I have been studying turkish for a while but still have problems with these!
" I have" , "I have had" , "I would have" I will have" in short , the verbal tenses of "have" are a problem for me, that is to say : "Var and Yok" I just know how to use the present tense :
" Bir arabam var" and "Bir arkadaşım yok"
Please, help me and give me examples of usage. Thanks a lot!!
Dilara.



For simple tense you should use var/yok:
Subj have (not) something = birşey+POSS var/yok
Ex:
I have a car -- araba-m var
I don't have a car -- araba-m yok

and when there is idi, imiş or ise they can be written as suffixes like -di/-ti, -miş, -se/-sa
Ex:
I had a car -- araba-m var-dı (var idi)
I didn't have a car -- araba-m yok-tu (yok idi)
They say I have a car -- araba-m var-mış (var imiş
They say I don't have a car -- araba-m yok-muş (yok imiş
If I have a car -- araba-m var-sa (var ise)
If I don't have a car -- araba-m yok-sa (yok ise)

For the other tenses use possessive suffix + olmak:
I will have a car -- araba-m olacak
I will not have a car -- araba-m olmayacak
I wish I had a car -- araba-m olsa
I wish I didn't have a car -- araba-m olmasa
those who have a car -- araba-sı olanlar
those who don't have a car -- araba-sı olmayanlar
I know that he has a car -- araba-sı olduğunu biliyorum
etc.

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9.       juliacernat
424 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 10:31 am

merhaba!

why for "I will have a car" you use "arabam olacak" and not "arabam olacagim"?

10.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 10:40 am

Quoting aslan2:

I wish I had a car -- araba-m olsa



Where does "wish" come from ???
Isn't -sa the conditional suffix?

11.       aslan2
507 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 11:02 am

Quoting juliacernat:

merhaba!

why for "I will have a car" you use "arabam olacak" and not "arabam olacagim"?



The person is expressed by the possessive suffix
araba-m olacak -- I will have a car
araba-n olacak -- You will have a car
araba- olacak -- He/She will have a car
araba-mız olacak -- We will have a car
araba-nız olacak -- You will have a car
araba-ları olacak -- They will have a car

12.       aslan2
507 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 11:07 am

Quoting bod:

Quoting aslan2:

I wish I had a car -- araba-m olsa



Where does "wish" come from ???
Isn't -sa the conditional suffix?



Yes. But it is also used for wishes. That's why it is called dilek-şart (wish and condition). So

gelse means either

* I wish he comes

or

* If he came

depending on the context.

And for wishes usually keşke is included in the sentence

Keşke gelse -- I wish he comes/came

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13.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 11:31 am

Check this out bod

İ've learnt today..

14.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 11:56 am

Quoting impulse:

I have a car = Bir arabam var.
I had a car / I have had a car = Bir arabam vardı
I will have a car.. = Bir arabam olacak
I would have a car.. = Bir arabam olabilirdi



Then we can say that

Bir arabam olacak
Bir arabam olabilirdi

Here is the usage of olacak with the İsim Cümle ?

15.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 04:36 pm

Quoting aslan2:

gelse means either

* I wish he comes

or

* If he came

depending on the context.

And for wishes usually keşke is included in the sentence

Keşke gelse -- I wish he comes/came



Ah!
So if it is not clear from context, eğer[/b] or [i]keşke are used to show which meaning is intented?

16.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 Sep 2006 Thu 07:00 pm

bod,

İf it is a wish,it would come directly after the verb stem,only one suffix can come before it,and which is (mA) negative

And as you know,Türkçede,it doesn't really considered a suffix,it considered a new verb

And wish form got only 2 forms

Eylem +(mA ) sA +kişi eki

And

Eylem + (mA ) sA +y + dI + kişi eki .....this one is past

17.       Dilara
1153 posts
 12 Sep 2006 Tue 02:18 am

Thank you Aslan2 and all of you for another excellent explanation!!
You're all great.
Dilara.

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