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T=E please help me :(
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:57 am |
I have a slight understanding..but some things I just don't understand in this email, they confused me, I'm use to talking english with him. I would be very very thankful if someone could help me translate this
Aþkým ben çok kötüyüm,hiç iyi deðilim,ne yapacaðýmý bilmiyorum,bir çýkmazdayým,daima seni düþünüyorum,iþlerimi yapamaz oldum,evde , sokakta,iþte seni düþünüyorum,karýmla aram iyice bozuldu,ben bilgisayarý açýyorum gelip yanýma oturuyor,sanýrým birþeyler anlamýþ,ben seni çok istiyorum,seni arzuluyorum,fakat senile yeterince görüþemiyorum,seni çok özlüyorum,seni görmek sesini duymak sana dokunmak istiyorum.ben sana vuruldum,sana tutuldum,sana aþýk oldum,sensiz duramýyorum,dünyam allak bullak oldu,daima seni düþünüyorum,seninle yatýp seninle kalkýyorum,ama sana dokunamýyorum,seni hissedemiyorum,sýcaklýðýný hissetmek istiyorum,daima yanýmda olmaný istiyorum,sana dokunmak,sana sýký sýký sarýlmak,seni kucaklamak,içime basmak istiyorumsen benim herþeyimsin,caným benim, birtanem,seni çok seviyorum ve ümit ediyorum bir gün seni alacaðým seni öpüp koklayacaðým,sana doyasýya sarýlacaðým, Seni çok seven, Aþýðýn
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 12:13 pm |
Quote: Aþkým ben çok kötüyüm,hiç iyi deðilim,ne yapacaðýmý bilmiyorum,bir çýkmazdayým,daima seni düþünüyorum,iþlerimi yapamaz oldum,evde , sokakta,iþte seni düþünüyorum,karýmla aram iyice bozuldu,ben bilgisayarý açýyorum gelip yanýma oturuyor,sanýrým birþeyler anlamýþ,ben seni çok istiyorum,seni arzuluyorum,fakat senile yeterince görüþemiyorum,seni çok özlüyorum,seni görmek sesini duymak sana dokunmak istiyorum.ben sana vuruldum,sana tutuldum,sana aþýk oldum,sensiz duramýyorum,dünyam allak bullak oldu,daima seni düþünüyorum,seninle yatýp seninle kalkýyorum,ama sana dokunamýyorum,seni hissedemiyorum,sýcaklýðýný hissetmek istiyorum,daima yanýmda olmaný istiyorum,sana dokunmak,sana sýký sýký sarýlmak,seni kucaklamak,içime basmak istiyorumsen benim herþeyimsin,caným benim, birtanem,seni çok seviyorum ve ümit ediyorum bir gün seni alacaðým seni öpüp koklayacaðým,sana doyasýya sarýlacaðým, Seni çok seven, Aþýðýn |
Dear i dont know wht i have to do..i feel so bad.wherevr i go thinking of you.. myrelationshp not good wth mywife and bcme more bad..whn i open the pc she immdlty come and sit beside me i thnk she got sometng about us.i want you so mch and miss you..wanna see you ,hear your woice..touch you...I fall in love wht you.i cant stop wthout you..all the time sleep and wake up with you..but i cant touch you i cant feel you.. i want feel your warm baby..want hug you so tight you are myevrytng baby..i love you so mch.and i wish tht 1 day i ll hug you so tght thn ll kiss you real..
yourlove...
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 02:09 pm |
thank you so much, that was soo nice of you! ah I'm a little shocked and confused right now because he told me he was single.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 02:12 pm |
Oh What a rat !!! I hope you are ok x
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 02:57 pm |
Quoting SWEET-HEART: Oh What a rat !!! I hope you are ok x |
thank you so much for caring xx
I don't know, I feel bad because I thought he was a good friend of mine, we were talking for a long time and I knew something was up when he started talking completely in turkish VS the english, that someone was not letting him look at english dictionaries, and I had a feeling he was being rushed on the computer. I'm angry at him for saying he loved and wanted to marry me, ect ect, he said stuff like that all the time. I didn't feel the same way, but he was just incredibly misleading and thats what makes me angry :/
thank you again ♥
and thank god for such awesome linguists, really I appreciate it guys.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 05:39 pm |
When I read this translation, I must confess, I had pretty awful thoughts about you as a person...thinking you were having a relationship with a married man. Then wondering why you were sharing it with everybody! Nice to know you are a good person. I apologize for judging! I learned something too!!!! Sorry to hear you were being lied to. Sucks! But, at least you found out now versus later on. Seems people think they can reinvent their lives on the internet & play around with people's emotions without consequences. Pretty sad. But, I am sure you will be fine. Best wishes!
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 08:05 pm |
Quoting Capoeira: When I read this translation, I must confess, I had pretty awful thoughts about you as a person...thinking you were having a relationship with a married man. Then wondering why you were sharing it with everybody! Nice to know you are a good person. I apologize for judging! I learned something too!!!! Sorry to hear you were being lied to. Sucks! But, at least you found out now versus later on. Seems people think they can reinvent their lives on the internet & play around with people's emotions without consequences. Pretty sad. But, I am sure you will be fine. Best wishes! |
My thoughts too Sooo sorry evabeshiri,
What a jerk!!!
I'am so sorry for you to find out this way, but at least now you know the truth before you got involved even further with him. I always believed once a cheater always a cheater.
I was in a similar situation too, but reversed because it was my turkish ex-husband cheating on me with a woman he also met on the internet! So imagine what he is also doing to his wife, he is a bastard for sure!
Anyway life goes on and I'am sure within time you will meet a wonderful guy, Good luck and much happiness to you.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 08:09 pm |
Quote: he is a bastard for sure!
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i thnk you should take care your word here..if he did mistake go tell him dont talk behind him..the way you talk fo me you are not dffrnt thn him rght now.. go learn some good words whn u talk..
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 08:10 pm |
The truth hurts doesn't it?
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 08:14 pm |
If the people stpid teach them smtng to bcme good person but the way you talk make you same like them.. dsnt matter he is bastard or wtvr but your brain like this you cnt survivor so mch if you ask me why... if the horse run so fast the shit ll come out so slow.. so look urslf mybe you doin same thng too..
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 08:21 pm |
Go tell that to the wife that is savagely beaten by her turkish husband and see the kind of person she turned out to be!!!
She will not be so forgiving or trusting after that!
Don't talk unless you were in that kind of situation yourself!
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 08:31 pm |
Why you here can you tell me? About turkey? about turkish?or about turkish culture or music..
First thng saw tht yourfamily not teach you how to talk with people.. second.. is non of mybusiness wht they doing out of there..in your country men also doin same thng or other plces.. Nobody can be perfct pple can do mistake is their life..you never did? i did.. This their future you can not do anytng about it.. but look yourslf bfre talk smtng about people thn talk wtvr you want..fo a lady yourwords too dangerous.... up to you.. ((
A word to the wise in enough.))
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 09:06 pm |
Rain,
Do you know Cat-Leo's family? Do you know her country, her culture, her music? All of this is irrelevant to her opinion of that cheating man. Bastard is not the appropriate word for that shameful man, but it is not such a bad word either. That man is worse than a bastard.
Cat is obviously an adult, and how she decides to write, (not talk), does not reflect on the teachings of her family any longer. She makes her own decisions.
If you read carefully her previous posting, she experienced a similar or worse situation with a cheating spouse. I think that qualifies her to express her opinion of a cheating husband.. dont you agree?
By the way, on a different note... why don't you write out the complete english word? if you are going to take the time to write "thng" why not write "thing" or instead of "tht", write "that". Word to the wise!
Once a cheater, always a cheater! My opinion!
Quoting Rain:
Why you here can you tell me? About turkey? about turkish?or about turkish culture or music..
First thng saw tht yourfamily not teach you how to talk with people.. second.. is non of mybusiness wht they doing out of there..in your country men also doin same thng or other plces.. Nobody can be perfct pple can do mistake is their life..you never did? i did.. This their future you can not do anytng about it.. but look yourslf bfre talk smtng about people thn talk wtvr you want..fo a lady yourwords too dangerous.... up to you.. ((
A word to the wise in enough.))
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 09:13 pm |
this is mytype i like to write like this..fo you the bastard so normal.. coz you are european.. but im turkish and myculture not like your.. LIKE EXAMPLE.. Denmark make cartoons fo ourprophet make fun.. thn later they said why you turks are getting crzy in here we make fun of ourreligion so take it easy... This what i learn from europea.. so as a turkish i dont like the word she said.. mybe you like thn go head.. and the try to get wht i mean with this word..
COMING EVENTS CAST THEIR SHADOWS BEFORE...
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 09:32 pm |
Quoting Rain:
this is mytype i like to write like this..fo you the bastard so normal.. coz you are european.. but im turkish and myculture not like your.. LIKE EXAMPLE.. Denmark make cartoons fo ourprophet make fun.. thn later they said why you turks are getting crzy in here we make fun of ourreligion so take it easy... This what i learn from europea.. so as a turkish i dont like the word she said.. mybe you like thn go head.. and the try to get wht i mean with this word..
COMING EVENTS CAST THEIR SHADOWS BEFORE... |
Why are you so defensive and offensive? You dont know anything about me; where I am from or my culture or my religion, and again, it is all irrelevant.
You need to gather your thoughts and comments before you respond to a forum posting. You are all over the place with your comments and responses... I don't discuss religion.
As far as the word "bastard"... it was not addressed to you. The meaning of the word bastard is a child born of unmarried parents, however, it is usually used for a very disliked person who is very bad, usually a man.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 09:39 pm |
if you dont like mypost no 1 force you to read..its me..
no 1 can say to me bastard no 1.. and even pple not talk to me.. i dont pple talk bullshit like tht..i m not talkng about you or yourcountry... i know wht the hell is bastard.. if you wanna learn sometng about turkish history or culture open book and start to read..ok?.. and rght now im stop to talkng to you.. thnx fo yourcomments.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 09:48 pm |
Quoting Rain: Why you here can you tell me? About turkey? about turkish?or about turkish culture or music..
First thng saw tht yourfamily not teach you how to talk with people.. second.. is non of mybusiness wht they doing out of there..in your country men also doin same thng or other plces.. Nobody can be perfct pple can do mistake is their life..you never did? i did.. This their future you can not do anytng about it.. but look yourslf bfre talk smtng about people thn talk wtvr you want..fo a lady yourwords too dangerous.... up to you.. ((
A word to the wise in enough.))
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Why am I here? I will tell you, to warn women about turkish men!
Most of you are not what you appeared to be, you're all covered in sweetness with sweet words and casanova ways, but most of you have violent tendency that these women here do not know about. I have seen if first hand with my ex-husbands and even with a few male friends.
I never once said anything mean about Turkey, as a matter of fact I love Turkey and I think your country is beautiful, but not everything about Turkey is so wonderful.
I would fear for the next woman who is savagely beaten by a turkish man especially if she is foreign, married to him and living in your country. From what I understand is that if a turkish man beats his wife there is not much the police will do but see it only as a husband and wife quarrel and leave them to be, am I wrong in this?
Of course if this happens with a turkish woman there is not much she can do but stay quiet because this is her husband and HER culture!
At least in my country the women are protected against these kinds of crimes by their men and that is exactly what that is-a CRIME!
As one of my ex-husband puts it....'Men in Turkey are %70 and women are %30, so I guess you don't believe in women being equal partners to their husbands in a marriage, so anything a woman owns becomes his property with no questions asked, so she loses what she once had.
So don't you tell me how I should feel or talk when it comes to men like these! What happened to me has nothing to do with how my family raise me or my culture or traditions.
For someone like you to be quick to judge, your anger is coming out loud and clear!
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 09:52 pm |
Quoting Rain:
if you dont like mypost no 1 force you to read..its me..
no 1 can say to me bastard no 1.. and even pple not talk to me.. i dont pple talk bullshit like tht..i m not talkng about you or yourcountry... i know wht the hell is bastard.. if you wanna learn sometng about turkish history or culture open book and start to read..ok?.. and rght now im stop to talkng to you.. thnx fo yourcomments. |
You are obviously ignorant to the responses. Where do you live now? hmmmm... and your picture says "Real Turkish"?
I thought so...
You'd be surprised how much I know about Turkish culture and history, and I did not study in Turkey, so I did not learn it from a Turk's perspective.
The same to you Rain, if you don't appreciate someone responding to your posts, don't post.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 09:55 pm |
i thnk its time to hurt you..why you know you talkng full of shit... LEARN LEARN... in the world.. NUMBER 1 COUNTRY FRENCH NUMBER 2 UK NUMBER 3 GERMANY TO BEAT WOMEN.. WHT THE FUCK YOU GONNA TEACH ME? is it all turkish man like that? fck your crime.. wht the hell you talkng about look yourcountry pple die bcoz of alcohol wht urpolice can do? pple start heroin extacy 11 years old in yourcountry wht police will do... dont teach me anytng coz u have no brain do depdate smtng with me.. and never even talk with any turkish pple here if not i ll shut yourmouth.. why you know coz 1 turkish you thnk all turkish fo you.. i dont give a damn fo you.. coz you so cheap i need some expensive and elegant people to talk.. rght now i stop to talkng to you too..ta ta..
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 09:57 pm |
guys,everyone entitled to his or her opinion,no need to argue together.
There are goods and bads every where,you all must accept this.
We are not here to fight,we are here to learn and get to know each other better,culture i mean
And that won't happen with high voice !
Cool it down and accept each other differences,beauty of cultures are there.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:06 pm |
Quoting Rain:
i thnk its time to hurt you..why you know you talkng full of shit... LEARN LEARN... in the world.. NUMBER 1 COUNTRY FRENCH NUMBER 2 UK NUMBER 3 GERMANY TO BEAT WOMEN.. WHT THE FUCK YOU GONNA TEACH ME? is it all turkish man like that? fck your crime.. wht the hell you talkng about look yourcountry pple die bcoz of alcohol wht urpolice can do? pple start heroin extacy 11 years old in yourcountry wht police will do... dont teach me anytng coz u have no brain do depdate smtng with me.. and never even talk with any turkish pple here if not i ll shut yourmouth.. why you know coz 1 turkish you thnk all turkish fo you.. i dont give a damn fo you.. coz you so cheap i need some expensive and elegant people to talk.. rght now i stop to talkng to you too..ta ta.. |
Rain! I'm shocked! Is this how your family educated you to respond? You don't possess the ability to comprehend anything. I am sorry you were not afforded the opportunity to educate yourself in communication, whether it be oral or written. You seem to be very dangerous with short fuse. You get so angry and vulgar... what language... ok, I make peace with you.. forget this... Go drink some tea and breathe fresh air...
Kendine iyi bak! Allah'a emanet ol!
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:07 pm |
İ'm sorry cat for your experience,but you really cann't generalize all turkish men are same to your ex husband,
wives get beaten in West too,unfortunately the term wives abused are very common too,
So we should judge now and say all Brith men,or American men beat their wives,and abuse them ?!
Generalizing is not really a logical thing to do.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:11 pm |
Wht happen to mylanguage.. i show you some example why you getting crzy? ya this is wht i try to explain to you.. words all are same nhtng diffrnt.. whn i say dont use bad word you said to me its so normal.. not bad.. thn i give you some exmple its so normal take it easy... tnx of myfamily show me and teach me excillent to deptade with people but nt the way like yours.. i drinking cappicino rght now no worries and im not angry with any1.. jst wht i want to say thn i said..
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:13 pm |
Quoting Rain:
Wht happen to mylanguage.. i show you some example why you getting crzy? ya this is wht i try to explain to you.. words all are same nhtng diffrnt.. whn i say dont use bad word you said to me its so normal.. not bad.. thn i give you some exmple its so normal take it easy... tnx of myfamily show me and teach me excillent to deptade with people but nt the way like yours.. i drinking cappicino rght now no worries and im not angry with any1.. jst wht i want to say thn i said.. |
Harika!
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:20 pm |
No matter what your experience is you CANNOT judge all because of one bad apple! I am sorry to say that spousal abuse is universal. There are even documented cases of women abusing their husbands. Women and men should be warned about losing themselves to any relationship and not demanding respect from their significant others. I understand that you are hurt. But you can't paint everyone with the same brush! The best revenge is living a better life. God bless you and I will put you on my prayer list.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:20 pm |
Rain I am finding your posts continually offensive and agressive and, frankly, your attitude to non-muslims and non-turks completely intolerant. What I love about this website is the wonderful friendships we have built with all nationalities, religions and cultures and the discussions we had here in the past proved that when people TALK and understand eachother, there can be no prejudice.
If you want to blame all people who live in the usa and europe for the actions of a few people (i.e.politicians) you are no better than the ignorant people who blame ALL muslims for terrorism.
I think you should spend less time pumping iron at the gym because its making you agressive.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:20 pm |
And never thnk tht i try to protect turkish people no.. fo me all pple are same.. even turkish talk nonsen i ll say to them too.. im im wrong you ll teach me too no 1 solve the problem with fight with gun time to talk with mouth to explain feelings to solve the prblem.. thn only the world ll be in peace.. No 1 perct..love not enough... god give us brain jst use it fo good thngs..
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:21 pm |
I am re-posting this Rain, in case you missed it.
Quoting aenigma x: Rain I am finding your posts continually offensive and agressive and, frankly, your attitude to non-muslims and non-turks completely intolerant. What I love about this website is the wonderful friendships we have built with all nationalities, religions and cultures and the discussions we had here in the past proved that when people TALK and understand eachother, there can be no prejudice.
If you want to blame all people who live in the usa and europe for the actions of a few people (i.e.politicians) you are no better than the ignorant people who blame ALL muslims for terrorism.
I think you should spend less time pumping iron at the gym because its making you aggressive.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:27 pm |
heheheh you good in type... but your eyes not tht good to read.. i never talk about all.. and i alrdy said about govermnt., and they doing smtng wrong.. gym not make me agrasive pple like you make me agresive.. coz you said i read some of yourpost but youreyes blur i thnk not read well...
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:28 pm |
Guysssss, time out !
Does anyone know a good joke ? lol
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:31 pm |
Who cares if the posts are offensive? This is the internet...which we all love because we have freedom of expression. We, readers, are not ignorant. If we find something we do not like, we simply skip them! I think people here are entirely too sensitive. Grow up! This is not the playground and everybody doesn't have to get along. There are others who think, speak, and YES express themselves differently.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:32 pm |
Quoting Rain: pple like you make me agresive.. coz you said i read some of yourpost but youreyes blur i thnk not read well... |
If you disagree with someone Rain, it is a sign of immaturity and ignorance to resort to aggression. I am shocked at your earlier post (which thankfully has been deleted) but written, in your words, "to hurt".
I can assure you there is nothing blurred about my eyes - they are WIDE OPEN to people like you..
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:40 pm |
Quoting Rain: ... LEARN LEARN... in the world.. NUMBER 1 COUNTRY FRENCH NUMBER 2 UK NUMBER 3 GERMANY TO BEAT WOMEN.. WHT THE FUCK YOU GONNA TEACH ME? . |
I would just like to clarify this statement ! These figures are true - they are of REPORTED incidents where the WOMEN went to the police. I am sure other countries have a much much rate of abused women (in fact I would bet my life on it ) but in some countries, women would be too scared to report beatings by their husbands to the police.
CHECK YOUR FACTS RAIN
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:41 pm |
Yes baby its me.. i open very very wide any problem? if you dont like mypost why u spent your energy to type..oh man i pitty you.. please find some man to share your problems.. if you have call him now plss fo me
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:47 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting Rain: ... LEARN LEARN... in the world.. NUMBER 1 COUNTRY FRENCH NUMBER 2 UK NUMBER 3 GERMANY TO BEAT WOMEN.. WHT THE FUCK YOU GONNA TEACH ME? . |
I would just like to clarify this statement ! These figures are true - they are of REPORTED incidents where the WOMEN went to the police. I am sure other countries have a much much rate of abused women (in fact I would bet my life on it ) but in some countries, women would be too scared to report beatings by their husbands to the police.
CHECK YOUR FACTS RAIN |
Thank you aenigma x,
It is because the women in these countries keep it quiet because they fear for their lives to report these beatings to the police, so I'am just as sure as you that their rate of abused women is so much higher then the USA, UK and Germany. But as I point out in a previous post the police will DO NOTHING of a wife being abused by her husband because they will see it as a husband and wife quarreling.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:48 pm |
No worrie in here ladies not scred.. if you can dare say them some bad word thn how they gonna chnge yourface i read i learn but you sit and drink..do you know whn i was little mymom told me a few thngs.. Whn you talk with people jst watch them how they sit how they walk or eat ..wht they talkng about in 5 mnute you ll see it wht kind of people you talkng.. you said jst now.. a few people (in politicS) can you tell me who chose this people? me or mydad... i thnk you and yourcountry people chose rght..dont say to me.. how i know they ll be like tht..you dont know wht kind of people you wote? in this website mostly are lady... not so mch man.. so you thnk ladies can talk wtvr they want about turkish? they fuck everytng they like? coz they are european or american? Look you and capoeria come from same country.. But you look like bush.. keep on talkng about piece but nt show anytng.. but capoeria talk elegant know how take people heart at least honest... this is wht make usa diffrnt.. like bush so many people around
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:51 pm |
Quoting Rain:
Yes baby its me.. i open very very wide any problem? if you dont like mypost why u spent your energy to type..oh man i pitty you.. please find some man to share your problems.. if you have call him now plss fo me |
Just the sort of sexist remark I would expect from you. Yes I have someone thank you, but luckily not sexist like you
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:51 pm |
http://www.mymerhaba.com/en/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=59&TopicID=2721&PagePosition=1
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 10:55 pm |
Once again, Rain, I think you should check your facts. You will find that well less than HALF of all USA voted for Bush and his right to presidency right now is very dubious.
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/276/1/30
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:00 pm |
Most women face abuse in the east
Much of Turkey, in particular Eastern Turkey, is still backward and Islamic. The following extracts are from August 2, 2006 Turkish Daily News. The results of the study did not paint a positive picture, noting that things became worse as one studied the state of women in rural regions. The study will be published in a book titled There Is Still a Lot to Do. I saw much of the isolation women were subjected to even in West Berlin in self-imposed ghettos.
A poll conducted by the Van Women's Association (VAKAD) has shown in a study that 56 percent of all women interviewed in Van face physical abuse, noting that as the level of women's education increases the number who choose their own mate and marry of their own volition goes up as well. They surveyed 766 women between the ages of 15 and 60, 590 of whom were married.
The study showed that 42.7 percent of respondents had married through arranged marriages. Only university graduates decided who they would marry and none of them married their relatives. As the level of education drops, marriages with relatives increase in frequency. 56 percent of those questioned said they faced physical abuse, with 53 percent of married women being physically abused by husbands or mothers-in-law. The study showed 53.7 percent were abused by their husbands, 29.8 percent by their mothers-in-law, 13.3 percent by all adults in the family, 2 percent by their fathers-in-law and 1.2 percent by second wives.
Out of the 766 women polled 338 said they faced abuse outside the home, with 29.6 percent coming from boyfriends, 22.9 percent from bosses, 17.4 percent from teachers and 12.5 percent workmates. 83.5 percent of the women experienced emotional abuse, 66 percent verbal abuse, 56 percent physical abuse, 33.7 percent economic abuse and 14.7 sexual abuse. Just over 51 percent of these women were abused because they came home late.
49.5 percent of those questioned said they would not want to be born as women if they had the chance. The percentage of those who didn't want to be born as women increased with decreased education levels. Most illiterate women don't want to be born again as women. The number of those who thought a woman without a man would find it hard to survive decreased with increased education, she said, adding, No university graduate agreed with the statement Housework is suitable for women'. 55.5 percent of those polled said no matter how much a woman worked outside, housework was still her responsibility. Fully 57.4 percent of those questioned said adultery was a crime and should be punished.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:17 pm |
Quoting cat_leo: Most women face abuse in the east
Much of Turkey, in particular Eastern Turkey, is still backward and Islamic.
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What is wrong with beeing İslamic cat ?!!!
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:21 pm |
I really think your term "backward" to describe any country and its people as being very prejudicial. Because a country and its people act contrary to what you believe is correct, does not make them backward. I still believe that women and men around the world face deplorable living situations and especially impoverished peoples. I think instead of labeling Turkey 'backwards' you should find international organizations like "MADRE" and send them some donations so that they can assist women in learning self-empowerment skills. Or, maybe volunteer at a local battered woman's shelter or work with teens to keep them from becoming single, unwed, impoverished mothers, as the highest precentage of abused women come from this group. I am sure that Turkey has a high rate of spousal abuse. But, there are many unreported cases in the Western world too. Just read a CNN report, today, where a man in USA killed his wife while she was at a safe house for women. It happens everywhere. You can't just pick on Turkey. This is a global issue that crosses racial, ethnic, religious, and economic lines.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:22 pm |
The thing is,having own problem doesn't mean to spread accusations to whole country or nations,and again here ,talking about other people's religion in a way they don't accept ,judging it without knowing it !
What is wrong with being İslamic ?
Men in USA,or UK who abuse their wives are christian,
Have we said they are Christianic'if there is such a term' for doing this ? !!
We are talking about men abusing women,why involving religion?!
Have we involved Christianity,and criticize it ?
Have we judged you,and criticized you for obaying or disobaying your religion ?
Have we said ,ohh yes,they are doing this because they are Christians ???!!!!
Have we criticize any religion,or any people for their religion,no matter if they were Christians,Jewish or what ever ?
Why implying they are doing such actions because they are STİLL İSLAMİC ??!!!!!!!
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:43 pm |
Quoting Rain:
they got sick problem with islam... whtvr they say islam mst be in the word.. ah capoeria thts why i say they like to talk nonsone anywy is oke let them talk.. we will see who is more strong soon.. |
How dare you! I have NO "sick problem with Islam" - quite the contrary in fact, and is not something I talk about often. This is not a fight Rain, you are insulting, arrogant and creating bad feeling on this website. Thanks.
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:48 pm |
Maybe not you aenigma,but read cat post,and you will see !!!
İ stopped posting in this subject,cause i didn't like the language,its not discussion,its more like a fight now,
İ was trying to make it lighter,
But i had to adjust my post.
İts not nice to imply about other people's religion in that way,
Specially if all what you know about coming from Media,not real readings !
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:49 pm |
a classical turkish guy
Quoting evabeshiri: thank you so much, that was soo nice of you! ah I'm a little shocked and confused right now because he told me he was single.  |
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:55 pm |
Quoting kadersokak: a classical turkish guy
Quoting evabeshiri: thank you so much, that was soo nice of you! ah I'm a little shocked and confused right now because he told me he was single.  |
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İ believe you are Turkish too !
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27 Sep 2006 Wed 11:56 pm |
im so regret to translate this post.....its so normal classic western..
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:00 am |
Quoting CANLI: Maybe not you aenigma,but read cat post,and you will see !!! |
I agree the article Cat posted appears to criticise Islam in the first line - but I sincerely think that the first line is badly punctuated and reads incorrectly. As usual, Rain decided to include me in his insult.
This is why I cannot argue with you anymore and will refuse to be drawn into any discussion with Rain again:-
Rain is UNABLE to be objective about anything that HE believes in. He feels quite comfortable in criticising other countries, religions, gender, politics, values, culture... but is completely unable to deal other people's differing views and defends them by insulting us and using foul language and, in my case, labelling me as rascist. I am quite happy to(and frequently do) criticise my own country and my own culture, but let us hear ONE WORD from Rain criticising Turkey, or it's culture? Impossible.
So again..Iyi geceler...
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:01 am |
right i no this is prob old but im 16 and i have never taken drugs thanks and im from UK so "rain" you can shut up!!!!
o and i would never let a guy hit me or anything like that because they no what they would get back hahaha and no one owns me and never will im my own person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:20 am |
what the hell you chatting bout!!!i was just saying i havent taken any drugs and im 16 cos you was like going on bout 11year olds from uk taking drugs no i dont take drugs thanks and half that message i didnt understand!!!!bbc what shows!!!!bbc shit shows thanks got better things to be doing and yeah i still hate english guys well done i love turkish guys they are nice but no way is one of them owning me thats all im saying plus hitting me alright im just saying my own oppinion so why cant you just take it and how am i hiding behind pc yeah i will have it out with ya come here then!!!!!!!!!
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:23 am |
o sorri and when did the word bomb come up in my message no where so dont start talking bout that shit cos that shit does get to me aswell ya no your not the only person in this bloody world!!!!!!!!!!!i gotta live with this shit for the rest of my life so dont start saying shit like that alright just cos im 16 dont make me bloody stupid i do no what is going on in the world i do watch the news a read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:23 am |
Quoting heidilovesosman: right i no this is prob old but im 16 and i have never taken drugs thanks and im from UK so "rain" you can shut up!!!!
o and i would never let a guy hit me or anything like that because they no what they would get back hahaha and no one owns me and never will im my own person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
See what those kind of posts do with a 16 yrs old girl mind ?!
See how it makes her see those people and judge the country ?
from about 20 million Turkish woman,they asked about 800 women,and their opinion goes over the 20 million one ?
That is a pity
This whole discussion sound raices to me,and i am so sad it took place.
But i want to tell you something aenigma,
This is the reason why Rain is so angry,because we been judged for our religion,without even paying the effort of knowing us or our religion too.
But...but,i don't agree with his way of putting on his opinion,it won't lead to understanding.
İt will lead to posts like the above,as cat did,then to a fight !
As if there is not enough fights in the real world.
What a pity
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:31 am |
yeah but like i am 16 yeah i got my hole life in front of me i dont need people like rain being a total dick and saying shit like that bout my country and people init yeah in countrys there are bad people but then there are good people aint you thought bout those people and how they might feel about all this fighting in the world like me i so fed up of racial people why you think im on here i love turkish/muslims but there is people out there that hate then and i dont understand why well i do a bit but i think most of the are the nicest people i have met so done be talking all this crap rain bout me and my country try coming here and you will see there is nice people here not just losers a sad people that take drugs at "11"
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:37 am |
Can we all STOP now ???!!!!
That won't get us anywhere, except more fights.
So please, can we stop talking,and try to,listen,read,and know each other better,and STOP fights.
We have enough out there,no need to have more !
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:39 am |
Quoting heidilovesosman: you thought bout those people and how they might feel about all this fighting in the world like me i so fed up of racial people why you think im on here i love turkish/muslims but there is people out there that hate then and i dont understand why well i do a bit but i think most of the are the nicest people i have met so done be talking all this crap rain bout |
Dont worry Heidi - there is only one racist here, and it's not us.
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:40 am |
yeah i no but like he just dont listen all he thinks bout is him and what good things happen in turkey or where ever and like say all bad about everywhere else some places do have good that what im trying to say thats it!!!!!!the he starts going on about crap i didnt even right about and im like what!!!!ahhhhh made me so angry!!!!!!im sorry people!!!!i was just trying to put my point in¬_¬
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:50 am |
Tamam,YETER ! lol
Ok gals,weeelll, and guys too if they promise not to fight,,lol
Well you meet me in off the topic Forums ?
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:51 am |
Quoting Rain:
i thnk its time to hurt you..why you know you talkng full of shit... LEARN LEARN... in the world.. NUMBER 1 COUNTRY FRENCH NUMBER 2 UK NUMBER 3 GERMANY TO BEAT WOMEN.. WHT THE FUCK YOU GONNA TEACH ME? is it all turkish man like that? fck your crime.. wht the hell you talkng about look yourcountry pple die bcoz of alcohol wht urpolice can do? pple start heroin extacy 11 years old in yourcountry wht police will do... dont teach me anytng coz u have no brain do depdate smtng with me.. and never even talk with any turkish pple here if not i ll shut yourmouth.. why you know coz 1 turkish you thnk all turkish fo you.. i dont give a damn fo you.. coz you so cheap i need some expensive and elegant people to talk.. rght now i stop to talkng to you too..ta ta.. |
This started to get ugly when Rain felt offended because Cat used the word "bastard" and he then became very offensive with all those who replied... Rain claims that Cat used the word "bastard" because of her family upbringing. Let's look at his posting above... his response is offensive, vulgar and look... he wants to "hurt" me. Is that physical? physical abuse? There has always been physical abuse in all countries... religion and race has nothing to do with it, education and gender has nothing to do with it... there are sick people everywhere. This is a forum.. don't take anything personal!
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:56 am |
hahaha right im stupid what i dont get it so im just gonna laugh lol
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:57 am |
He doesn't meant it physical,you know better than this
He meant with words,
Words hurts more,and long too.
Let's drop it now,and cool it,ok ?
İf you like,you are invited too to off the topic Forum to share us
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 12:58 am |
okay yeah cool yeah be there in a min
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 01:07 am |
Quoting CANLI: He doesn't meant it physical,you know better than this
He meant with words,
Words hurts more,and long too.
Let's drop it now,and cool it,ok ?
İf you like,you are invited too to off the topic Forum to share us  |
Do you know him personally? Perhaps he does not mean it in a physical form, however, his reaction is a very angry one, which shows he has a tendency to lack control of his anger, orally at least... I dont know him personally so I cannot attest to whether he can be physically abusive, but definitely he gets verbally abusive on this forum. Abuse is acted out not only physically, but verbally, and in quoting you, "words hurt more, and long too", he seems to possess this attributes of abuse. I was just pointing that out.
Thank you for the invitation sister, I will decline at this time.
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 01:21 am |
No,i don't know him personaly,and yes he seems angry too,
But i don't think with such remark ''he wants to "hurt" me. Is that physical? physical abuse?''
That would solve anything,except in adding some oil to the fire !
And i guess no one here want to have a fire at the first place,cause you really cann't control fire !
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 01:31 am |
I think the point of the 'bastard' comment was that it was taken as if you were offending the mother not the son here. But, I still cannot understand why people are so angry at Rain. This is a forum...people post things...be angry at the invention of the internet if you don't like people to speak their minds! Also I do not know Rain personally but he spends a lot of time helping people here on this site doing translations. I think actions speak louder than words here.
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 01:32 am |
Quoting CANLI: No,i don't know him personaly,and yes he seems angry too,
But i don't think with such remark ''he wants to "hurt" me. Is that physical? physical abuse?''
That would solve anything,except in adding some oil to the fire !
And i guess no one here want to have a fire at the first place,cause you really cann't control fire ! |
I was making a point with "his" use of the words, "he wants to hurt".... It is just ironic what he fights for in this forum, he is culpable of... "abuse"... quite hypocritical really.
Really Canli, this is a forum, free to express what we want, within the limits set forth, such as not to discuss religion. Fortunately for all, no one can get burned with real fire. I realized Rain lacked the ability to engage in a debate, so I made my peace with him, and he was happy.
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 01:44 am |
Quoting Capoeira: I think the point of the 'bastard' comment was that it was taken as if you were offending the mother not the son here. But, I still cannot understand why people are so angry at Rain. This is a forum...people post things...be angry at the invention of the internet if you don't like people to speak their minds! Also I do not know Rain personally but he spends a lot of time helping people here on this site doing translations. I think actions speak louder than words here. |
Regardless of the point, Rain was unhappy that Cat used the word "bastard" and claimed it was due to her educational upbringing in the home. The first angry person was Rain, just because Cat exercised her privelege of expressing her opinion. Perhaps "Rain" is the one who needs to be personally reminded that this is a forum and people can post what they like. Ask him why he was so angry? It is beyond my comprehension how the use of one word, "bastard" led him to discuss nationalities, countries, politics, religion
Whether Rain spends alot of time helping in translations, again it is irrelevant. There are others who help as well, before him and will be here after him.
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 01:50 am |
Taken from prior post: "Whether Rain spends alot of time helping in translations, again it is irrelevant."
Doesn't seem very objective that way. But, long live free speech!
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28 Sep 2006 Thu 02:00 am |
Quoting Capoeira:
Taken from prior post: "Whether Rain spends alot of time helping in translations, again it is irrelevant."
Doesn't seem very objective that way. But, long live free speech! |
Please enlighten me and elaborate. Objective to what? That because he translates his responses are excused?
I will accept Canli's invitation at this time. I am off of this topic.
-Dead end-
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 04:19 pm |
Quoting Rain:
i thnk its time to hurt you..why you know you talkng full of shit... LEARN LEARN... in the world.. NUMBER 1 COUNTRY FRENCH NUMBER 2 UK NUMBER 3 GERMANY TO BEAT WOMEN.. WHT THE FUCK YOU GONNA TEACH ME? is it all turkish man like that? fck your crime.. wht the hell you talkng about look yourcountry pple die bcoz of alcohol wht urpolice can do? pple start heroin extacy 11 years old in yourcountry wht police will do... dont teach me anytng coz u have no brain do depdate smtng with me.. and never even talk with any turkish pple here if not i ll shut yourmouth.. why you know coz 1 turkish you thnk all turkish fo you.. i dont give a damn fo you.. coz you so cheap i need some expensive and elegant people to talk.. rght now i stop to talkng to you too..ta ta.. |
Hello, Rain!
I have nothing against you but for your general knowledge saying bullshit and f...k word are as bad as saying bastard!So please stop saying bad words or i will send a PM to administrators!
This is not the right way to express your feelings and thoughts about things!Please be careful with the way you are using words in here because you are talking to ladies!!!
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 04:36 pm |
Dont wait to go admin,...im here i know wht i need to talk with a lady or wich words i have to use..
read mypost very clearly..i never use bad words..i use it to give her sme example to understnd ...she said bastard is normal.. so i said fck also normal..you dnt have to get crzy..
Whn a lady talk bad..you not go admin i thnk coz from yourplce...but like i say.. dont waste yourtime..send a msg fo admin..
coz im really so boring to see this kind of person here all the time...reality pls..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 04:46 pm |
Rain, why u gettin crzy?...wht is wrng wit u?..why u spk like dis?..why u mking ppl gettin crzy?...instd of all gettin crzy..why dont u just clm dwn?
Rain - Why are you here? I cannot understand it, you are a living contradiction, you have made it very clear that you hate anything Western, but you spend all day on a website translating messages into English. May I remind you that nobody is ASKING you to do this, you dont HAVE to do it, its not compulsory.
I really cant find any sense or logic in anything you write, your just agressive and cannot accept that other people have their OWN opinions! Why cant you just accept them? you dont have to agree with them, but learn to respect the opinions of others.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 04:57 pm |
aLLah askina yeter ya!!!
Some 1 ll come here ll say ...not fo me .(myfamily fckng idiot nthng to say thne,,...) some 1 ll come and ll say Bastard is a nice word all pple can use.. some 1 ll come here all turkish are same cheating women...or they are lair..
thn you wll come here and ask me to respct this kind of person? allah askina can you tell me this is western culture? you want me respct this kind of culture? and how you know i hate western?i have so many western friend from europea but they not behave like tht or talkng like this..
sorry tht i dont want to hear this kind of culture..(if really western cultre like tht) and i wont accpt their opinion if all is like tht.. dont keep on say to me.. why u nt listen pple opinion... pple ll be rude u want me listen their opinion.. i really start suspect from urpersonality.. really.. i come here.. coz i have a lot friend...i translte who really need help...this is turkish website tht why im here..
and i said i never wait all people agree with myopinion..but here im talkng about personality..they have no character to talk bullshit like tht.. is tht bad to say pple.. can you take care of yourwords..coz here not like european website u can talk all the shitwords..
mywife also coming this website and she dont like to hear this kind of nonsne everyday..
pple can explain their opinion but have to respct other pple have to take of their words..
read this post very clearly from start who gonna argue..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:08 pm |
Quoting Rain:
Yea Let me explain.. uSa and europa said we want to brin democracy to middle east.. but they only brng trouble.. kiLL so many innocent.. Europea talkng about turkey if you wanna join us you have to follow the ruLes.. can you say to me.. in europea pple can make fun with the religion.. even pple can say fuck the religion everytng they want... but in here no 1 can dare to do it...bcz they know wht the hell ll happn ...ELIF SAFAK is a turkish...but she not said all herslf... some 1 force her to say... If america and europea go with this brain ...they ll lost a lot thngs.. but iSLam countries ll be great in future even now they are in war..We have soul...not only talkng like them...I HATE USA AND EUROPEAN Govermnt.. around the world alrdy pple dont like europea and usa.. bcoze they like to kill... nthng else.. |
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:11 pm |
if not clear i wanna give some exmple..
i hate Usa govermnt but i never hate from usa people..
why i so hate to see pple killed made in usa bomb..
i hate europea govermnt.. they talkng about humanzm but they never look theirslf..
france keep on saying turkish killed armenian people..even we not kill.. but france never look theirslf.. in africa.. sudan somali cezayir.. killed so many people.. but wht they talkng about?
yes i hate..who never look theirslf bfre talk in here..
everybody doing mistake coz no 1 can be perfct..but whn i see some 1 talkng smtng without know anytng.. i ll say myopinion very clear..if The culture can say all the shitwords i ll say sorry this people dont have personality to deptade smtng..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:16 pm |
You are so unbelievably contradictive! Iam starting to think that you are disillusional, because you keep saying that you have no respect for people who use bad language and are offensive - but cant you see, it is you who is using bad language?
Iam not going to respond to you anymore because its like trying to correspond with a 5 year old!
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:17 pm |
Quoting Rain:
aLLah askina yeter ya!!!
Some 1 ll come here ll say ...not fo me .(myfamily fckng idiot nthng to say thne,,...) some 1 ll come and ll say Bastard is a nice word all pple can use.. some 1 ll come here all turkish are same cheating women...or they are lair..
thn you wll come here and ask me to respct this kind of person? allah askina can you tell me this is western culture? you want me respct this kind of culture? and how you know i hate western?i have so many western friend from europea but they not behave like tht or talkng like this..
sorry tht i dont want to hear this kind of culture..(if really western cultre like tht) and i wont accpt their opinion if all is like tht.. dont keep on say to me.. why u nt listen pple opinion... pple ll be rude u want me listen their opinion.. i really start suspect from urpersonality.. really.. i come here.. coz i have a lot friend...i translte who really need help...this is turkish website tht why im here..
and i said i never wait all people agree with myopinion..but here im talkng about personality..they have no character to talk bullshit like tht.. is tht bad to say pple.. can you take care of yourwords..coz here not like european website u can talk all the shitwords..
mywife also coming this website and she dont like to hear this kind of nonsne everyday..
pple can explain their opinion but have to respct other pple have to take of their words..
read this post very clearly from start who gonna argue..
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Rain I can see your point, but she didn't mean anything that bad by what she said, if you see things through her eyes she has been through hell and a similar experience to mine (we have talked through private messages, she is honestly a good person) and you can't blame her for saying that. you have to try and place yourself in her situation. The western culture is not all about profanity, if you take one incident and judge the entire culture by it, i'm sorry, that is being slightly narrow minded. you really just have to look at each different culture on an individual basis, without any bias toward one another because they are all so different. for example there are some things about the Turkish culture I don't like, but it doesn't change my entire opinion about it, I still think it's a wonderful culture I want to learn more about. Everyone deserves to be treated on an individual basis.. I'm just trying to make peace of this situation, I'm going to finish reading all the comments and leave a longer one later
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:22 pm |
Quoting Pandora: You are so unbelievably contradictive! Iam starting to think that you are disillusional, because you keep saying that you have no respect for people who use bad language and are offensive - but cant you see, it is you who is using bad language?
Iam not going to respond to you anymore because its like trying to correspond with a 5 year old! |
if im 5 years old why u keep on argue with me.. so long time ago i told you.. dont answer mypost if im idiot.. why u cant control urlsf.. ladie you got sick problem.. 1 week bfre i said leave me alone but u still around me..
pls ladies go chnage your hair style or today cook dffrnt food at least u wont feel boring..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:27 pm |
Quoting Rain:
Dont wait to go admin,...im here i know wht i need to talk with a lady or wich words i have to use..
read mypost very clearly..i never use bad words..i use it to give her sme example to understnd ...she said bastard is normal.. so i said fck also normal..you dnt have to get crzy..
Whn a lady talk bad..you not go admin i thnk coz from yourplce...but like i say.. dont waste yourtime..send a msg fo admin..
coz im really so boring to see this kind of person here all the time...reality pls.. |
I have read it and its you who said f..k and bullshit, even if they were used to give examples!!!And i didnt get crazy just that your language and your anger is too much for this site!!I think you should read again one more time, in case you have ever read it before, the TC rules, here is one important article:
"8. Do not post vulgar, hateful, threatening, derogatory, racist or obscene comments on this site. Any such content will be deleted. The user account of the author of such messages may also be deleted if it repeats."
And i think we got all bored of your language, even if we appreciate your help with translations!
Regards,
Maria
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:27 pm |
How is hating the US government generalized into hating anything western? I am a US citizen and a tax payer and I vote. I also hate how our government throws its weight around to make more money, bombs baghdad, puts Sadaam Hussein on trial, yet secretly sends people to be tortured in other countries, has 'secret' detention centers and turns a blind eye to AIDS and genocide in Africa. Does this mean I 'hate all things western' too?
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:29 pm |
Quoting evabeshiri: Quoting Rain:
aLLah askina yeter ya!!!
Some 1 ll come here ll say ...not fo me .(myfamily fckng idiot nthng to say thne,,...) some 1 ll come and ll say Bastard is a nice word all pple can use.. some 1 ll come here all turkish are same cheating women...or they are lair..
thn you wll come here and ask me to respct this kind of person? allah askina can you tell me this is western culture? you want me respct this kind of culture? and how you know i hate western?i have so many western friend from europea but they not behave like tht or talkng like this..
sorry tht i dont want to hear this kind of culture..(if really western cultre like tht) and i wont accpt their opinion if all is like tht.. dont keep on say to me.. why u nt listen pple opinion... pple ll be rude u want me listen their opinion.. i really start suspect from urpersonality.. really.. i come here.. coz i have a lot friend...i translte who really need help...this is turkish website tht why im here..
and i said i never wait all people agree with myopinion..but here im talkng about personality..they have no character to talk bullshit like tht.. is tht bad to say pple.. can you take care of yourwords..coz here not like european website u can talk all the shitwords..
mywife also coming this website and she dont like to hear this kind of nonsne everyday..
pple can explain their opinion but have to respct other pple have to take of their words..
read this post very clearly from start who gonna argue..
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Rain I can see your point, but she didn't mean anything that bad by what she said, if you see things through her eyes she has been through hell and a similar experience to mine (we have talked through private messages, she is honestly a good person) and you can't blame her for saying that. you have to try and place yourself in her situation. The western culture is not all about profanity, if you take one incident and judge the entire culture by it, i'm sorry, that is being slightly narrow minded. you really just have to look at each different culture on an individual basis, without any bias toward one another because they are all so different. for example there are some things about the Turkish culture I don't like, but it doesn't change my entire opinion about it, I still think it's a wonderful culture I want to learn more about. Everyone deserves to be treated on an individual basis.. I'm just trying to make peace of this situation, I'm going to finish reading all the comments and leave a longer one later |
i undersntd you ladie.. but let me say this..
not fo you fo all in this website.
whn u talk smtng whn u behave sme1 whn u argue with some 1 take care everytng you do... coz you do everytng good or bad shwng your country yourpeople your culture..
i see many bad turkish also.. i feel shy tht pple will thnk all turkish is like tht.. this is the rules all around the world.. 1 person do bad pple talk all bad...
so tht bfre step take care thn only move.. if not smtng ll be dangerous..
is tht clear?
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:32 pm |
Quoting Mary83: Quoting Rain:
Dont wait to go admin,...im here i know wht i need to talk with a lady or wich words i have to use..
read mypost very clearly..i never use bad words..i use it to give her sme example to understnd ...she said bastard is normal.. so i said fck also normal..you dnt have to get crzy..
Whn a lady talk bad..you not go admin i thnk coz from yourplce...but like i say.. dont waste yourtime..send a msg fo admin..
coz im really so boring to see this kind of person here all the time...reality pls.. |
I have read it and its you who said f..k and bullshit, even if they were used to give examples!!!And i didnt get crazy just that your language and your anger is too much for this site!!I think you should read again one more time, in case you have ever read it before, the TC rules, here is one important article:
"8. Do not post vulgar, hateful, threatening, derogatory, racist or obscene comments on this site. Any such content will be deleted. The user account of the author of such messages may also be deleted if it repeats."
And i think we got all bored of your language, even if we appreciate your help with translations!
Regards,
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heheh so mean you people can say BASTARD BUT NO TC RULES.. IF I SAY GOT RULES look the brain how looser you are make me laugh here too mch
no worry i open myeyes who i have to help fo translte..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:42 pm |
Quoting Rain: Quoting Mary83: Quoting Rain:
Dont wait to go admin,...im here i know wht i need to talk with a lady or wich words i have to use..
read mypost very clearly..i never use bad words..i use it to give her sme example to understnd ...she said bastard is normal.. so i said fck also normal..you dnt have to get crzy..
Whn a lady talk bad..you not go admin i thnk coz from yourplce...but like i say.. dont waste yourtime..send a msg fo admin..
coz im really so boring to see this kind of person here all the time...reality pls.. |
I have read it and its you who said f..k and bullshit, even if they were used to give examples!!!And i didnt get crazy just that your language and your anger is too much for this site!!I think you should read again one more time, in case you have ever read it before, the TC rules, here is one important article:
"8. Do not post vulgar, hateful, threatening, derogatory, racist or obscene comments on this site. Any such content will be deleted. The user account of the author of such messages may also be deleted if it repeats."
And i think we got all bored of your language, even if we appreciate your help with translations!
Regards,
Maria
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heheh so mean you people can say BASTARD BUT NO TC RULES.. IF I SAY GOT RULES look the brain how looser you are make me laugh here too mch
no worry i open myeyes who i have to help fo translte.. |
Do you really enjoy offending people in here, Rain??Did i offend you in any way??
And dont worry i wont need you help..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:45 pm |
Quoting Mary83: Quoting Rain: Quoting Mary83: Quoting Rain:
Dont wait to go admin,...im here i know wht i need to talk with a lady or wich words i have to use..
read mypost very clearly..i never use bad words..i use it to give her sme example to understnd ...she said bastard is normal.. so i said fck also normal..you dnt have to get crzy..
Whn a lady talk bad..you not go admin i thnk coz from yourplce...but like i say.. dont waste yourtime..send a msg fo admin..
coz im really so boring to see this kind of person here all the time...reality pls.. |
I have read it and its you who said f..k and bullshit, even if they were used to give examples!!!And i didnt get crazy just that your language and your anger is too much for this site!!I think you should read again one more time, in case you have ever read it before, the TC rules, here is one important article:
"8. Do not post vulgar, hateful, threatening, derogatory, racist or obscene comments on this site. Any such content will be deleted. The user account of the author of such messages may also be deleted if it repeats."
And i think we got all bored of your language, even if we appreciate your help with translations!
Regards,
Maria
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heheh so mean you people can say BASTARD BUT NO TC RULES.. IF I SAY GOT RULES look the brain how looser you are make me laugh here too mch
no worry i open myeyes who i have to help fo translte.. |
Do you really enjoy offending people in here, Rain??Did i offend you in any way??
And dont worry i wont need you help.. |
Lady answer myquestion dnt chnge the topic,,. you people can say no tc rules..? you people can talk all bad about turkish (i saw many here) no rules?
why u not accpt tht u r such a loser?
why u nt go kitchen to make a cup of tea? take it easy ladie
i enjoy which pple got brain like you or like yours..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 05:57 pm |
Quoting Capoeira: How is hating the US government generalized into hating anything western? I am a US citizen and a tax payer and I vote. I also hate how our government throws its weight around to make more money, bombs baghdad, puts Sadaam Hussein on trial, yet secretly sends people to be tortured in other countries, has 'secret' detention centers and turns a blind eye to AIDS and genocide in Africa. Does this mean I 'hate all things western' too?
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Just curious, why are you living in the U.S. if our governments so terrible? You also realize your tax dollars are contributing to the weapons that are being used in Iraq. Putting Sadaam Hussein on trial and your questioning this? Let me guess you voted for Carey. I apologize ahead of time for sounding harsh, however if you hate all of these things, maybe living abroad would be a better choice for you.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 06:34 pm |
do u really believe that american government is doing the best around world.stop supporting these stupid men.u are clever than u seen
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 06:40 pm |
and one thing more.for the americans.u will drown in ur own sea which u created like russia.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 06:41 pm |
this is wht i saw from ourgovermnt..we chose them mybe whn we choose we thnk everytng ll be great of us..mybe wrong choice.. But people put them there.. so they have to follow wht the country people want..
nowadays in turkey (turkey is a muslim country) womens couldnt go univercity bcze they wear hairscarf.. can you see tht muslim country muslim people cnt go univercty who wear hairscrf.. some people dosent like tht so many people go mosque.. is this wht turkish people want?i dont thnk so..
nowaday wht i saw and heard from the turkish news..in usa gowermnt spend the money fo millitary..am i rght?(sorry i fgot how mch they spent) all around the world got a lot poor people like africa like china .turkey in europea also.. fo me.. they better keep the money fo who s poor..if not we ll see all the time innocent are killing..
in usa got great people in govermnt.. but more mch like bush whn he was sy i talkng with god.. i start to laugh.. how come people chose this person to be uSa prisedent.. but later wht i learn actually nt so many people want bush tht time but they did smtng special in govermnt to chose bush.. and since 4 year year alrdy we saw wht happen with Bush..
all around the world the problem is education and no lack of knowledge...thts why all the bad thngs happen..
Mostly muslim countries got petrol but so lazy..can see from lebonon they dont have airforce or good millitary so many poor..malezya i living in this country yep muslim but muslim people so lazy(im a muslim i feel so bad)chinese make the country economi so good
so wht we have to do..make the correct thngs to make people happy..no poor..
if not so many pple will come fo look ourpetrol..like usa holland french uk.. coz wht i saw tht bfre they have nothng.. only they go africa country to take all their money to make nice europea..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 06:44 pm |
So Tirrogan I should support your military. Aren't you in the Navy? Do expect Turkish citizens to support you? I'm not saying our government doesn't have faults, but my saying goes "don't let the door hit you in the a_s" I'm just tired of reading posts from people critizing their own government, even Turkey. If they hate it so much, what's stopping them from getting the heck out.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 06:47 pm |
Quoting tirrogan: and one thing more.for the americans.u will drown in ur own sea which u created like russia. |
Hehehe, we don't have a sea Tirrogan. You may want to revisit your geography. Bye the way, for someone who acts like my friend, you have a crazy way of showing it.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 06:59 pm |
drowning in an ocean worse than drowning in a sea.u show how narrow minded u are.when i wrote sea i meant the ocean ofcourse i know where the america is
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 07:02 pm |
Quoting tirrogan: drowning in an ocean worse than drowning in a sea.u show how narrow minded u are.when i wrote sea i meant the ocean ofcourse i know where the america is |
How is drowning in an ocean worse? :-S Please enlighten this smarta_s
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 07:24 pm |
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 07:25 pm |
Please enlighten me! How does a relatively innocuous translation request become a 10 page embittered slanging match??
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 07:51 pm |
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Just curious, why are you living in the U.S. if our governments so terrible? You also realize your tax dollars are contributing to the weapons that are being used in Iraq. Putting Sadaam Hussein on trial and your questioning this? Let me guess you voted for Carey. I apologize ahead of time for sounding harsh, however if you hate all of these things, maybe living abroad would be a better choice for you. |
I'm sorry I thought we had freedome of speech in our country. Which doesn't mean that I can 'only' live here if I agree with every act that our government does. I love how 'American' you sound by pointing out that if I speak my mind and deeply dislike anything I should pack my bag and leave. Well, honey I didn't ask to be brought here. If you didn't want my voice or my attitude go back and tell our founders to stop chaining africans to the bottom of boats and selling them in the U.S. That is how I got here. So, if I sound a little upset yes I am.. But after our nation stripped us of our culture, language, religion and nearly our humanity now you want to say leave! Please honey! I pay taxes and vote and I can HATE our government's actions. That is my right as a U.S. citizen. Also, I do not have a say as to where my tax dollars go...I voted and the candidate that I did not want to make this decision is still in office. I have to wait until next elections to voice my opinion and hopefully others will agree. Oh, and if you don't agree with me...you are welcome to even be my neighbor. I think our country should have diversity in ethnicity and opinions.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:05 pm |
The forum rules about not talking politics or religion are there for a good reason it seems...
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:11 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: The forum rules about not talking about politics or religion are there for a good reason it seems...  |
You know Aenigma, I start to miss those "Thread now closed.." messages at the end of a thread!! Never ever did I think I would say this!!
I really like a good discussion, but this is just going nowhere.
ERDIIIINÇÇÇ???!!!
(god I feel confused with myself!! )
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:13 pm |
Quoting Elisa: Quoting aenigma x: The forum rules about not talking about politics or religion are there for a good reason it seems...  |
You know Aenigma, I start to miss those "Thread now closed.." messages at the end of a thread!! Never ever did I think I would say this!!
I really like a good discussion, but this is just going nowhere.
ERDIIIINÇÇÇ???!!!
(god I feel confused with myself!! ) |
+100!!!! How I would love to see just one locked thread or deleted post again ! I can't believe I am saying this either
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:15 pm |
Quote: Quote:
Just curious, why are you living in the U.S. if our governments so terrible? You also realize your tax dollars are contributing to the weapons that are being used in Iraq. Putting Sadaam Hussein on trial and your questioning this? Let me guess you voted for Carey. I apologize ahead of time for sounding harsh, however if you hate all of these things, maybe living abroad would be a better choice for you. |
I'm sorry I thought we had freedome of speech in our country. Which doesn't mean that I can 'only' live here if I agree with every act that our government does. I love how 'American' you sound by pointing out that if I speak my mind and deeply dislike anything I should pack my bag and leave. Well, honey I didn't ask to be brought here. If you didn't want my voice or my attitude go back and tell our founders to stop chaining africans to the bottom of boats and selling them in the U.S. That is how I got here. So, if I sound a little upset yes I am.. But after our nation stripped us of our culture, language, religion and nearly our humanity now you want to say leave! Please honey! I pay taxes and vote and I can HATE our government's actions. That is my right as a U.S. citizen. Also, I do not have a say as to where my tax dollars go...I voted and the candidate that I did not want to make this decision is still in office. I have to wait until next elections to voice my opinion and hopefully others will agree. Oh, and if you don't agree with me...you are welcome to even be my neighbor. I think our country should have diversity in ethnicity and opinions. |
You do have freedom of speech, my point exactely! But when you express yourself so negatively, I HATE this I HATE that it doesn't get you anywhere. I sound so American, because ironically enough I am. As far as being chained to a bottom of a boat and brought here, I think your exaggerating this. Maybe your ancestors, but then again it sounds like your playing this card like so many do. Let's blame the white people for everything. The Indians are who I feel bad for. I do agree with you on one thing, diversity is welcomed here. In fact, I welcome anyone who wants to come here to work and support our ecomony. I'm tired of supporting the welfare.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:16 pm |
Erdinc!!!!!!!!!!!! It is as if he heard our prayers ! I throw myself at your feet and beg for mercy ! PLEASE SAVE THIS WEBSITE!
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:18 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting Elisa: Quoting aenigma x: The forum rules about not talking about politics or religion are there for a good reason it seems...  |
You know Aenigma, I start to miss those "Thread now closed.." messages at the end of a thread!! Never ever did I think I would say this!!
I really like a good discussion, but this is just going nowhere.
ERDIIIINÇÇÇ???!!!
(god I feel confused with myself!! ) |
+100!!!! How I would love to see just one locked thread or deleted post again ! I can't believe I am saying this either |
I think we are all guilty of breaking the rules here at some point.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:21 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Erdinc!!!!!!!!!!!! It is as if he heard our prayers ! I throw myself at your feet and beg for mercy ! PLEASE SAVE THIS WEBSITE! |
I wonder if he is the real one, his name doesn't have the "ç" and he is reading poems...
I mean, absolutely nothing wrong with reading poems of course! But ErdinÇ wouldn't be doing this now I guess
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:23 pm |
i dont thnk we breaking the rules..pple sayin their opinion.. i thnk capo and teaschp also got point..and nice to hear wths going on around there..
This wht i like to read and wht i like to learn how people thnk fo their country...coz im a turkish i thnk good mybe another turkish nt thnk same as me..
By the way wht relatied with erdinc.. ?nothng wrong here.. and i wish tht pple speak their mind more mch here..make more mch page to read..
at least sme people talkng reality not only love or relationshp..wht make this page is nice..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:40 pm |
i think that capoeira and teaschip both have a right to their views...they r both us citizens..and yet one appears to challenge the us givt..rightly so in my opinion capoeira  ..i too question england's govt..does that mean i should kicked out of england?
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:41 pm |
Writing in the forum:
10. Any discussion on politics or religion and religious matters is strictly prohibited.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:42 pm |
oops meant to add smiley not send newayz we are all entitled to our opinions and i dont think just because some1 disagrees with their country's govt they shjould be kicked out..they were voted into power by a majority not the whole population..and unfortunatelt the majority of us and english citizens appear to have been under a spell during election time..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 08:57 pm |
It really doesn't matter anyhow, if Tirrogan get's his way Capo and I will be drowning in the ocean.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:07 pm |
i have red some of this forum and would like to say how good all the messages are but its a bit pathectic!!!do no how you all sound going on bout all this c**p!!!!!who cares if you dont like where you are use the bloody door and stop moning about it cos where is it gonna get you?........no where exactly
i wish to see a new forum sooon to stop all this religos stuff n about how c**p other countrys are!!!if ya dont like it dont talk about it simple!!!
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:10 pm |
heidi..im not sure that ur post has much relevance here..the messages are good and yet pathetic..ummm interesting..i can tell u r 16 years old..this was a lighthearted discussion..i was born here..im entitled to stay where i like..perhaps u should mature a little before feeling the need to respond quite so drastically..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:11 pm |
Quote:
You do have freedom of speech, my point exactely! But when you express yourself so negatively, I HATE this I HATE that it doesn't get you anywhere. I sound so American, because ironically enough I am. As far as being chained to a bottom of a boat and brought here, I think your exaggerating this. Maybe your ancestors, but then again it sounds like your playing this card like so many do. Let's blame the white people for everything. The Indians are who I feel bad for. I do agree with you on one thing, diversity is welcomed here. In fact, I welcome anyone who wants to come here to work and support our ecomony. I'm tired of supporting the welfare. |
Who is blaming 'white' people? I mentioned that to point out that I come from an oppressed people. 500 years of slavery and then Jim Crow laws are no exaggeration. It is a very sad part of our U.S. History that is clearly documented.
But you mentioned leaving here if I 'hate' something. I cannot leave here. My ancestors along with other sympathetic americans, white, asians, latinos etc. lost their lives, endured police dogs, beatings and torture so that I can vote, have a voice, have access to education. I 'hate' this part of our racist culture here! But, because they struggled so that I can be where I am, I cannot leave here and those still struggling for equality. You cannot deny our history nor its impact on our country today. I am staying to empower those who are being left behind, and since I have traveled outside of the U.S. I have seen how others live as well...I think as an American I should also be a voice for them. Others should know that bad things are happening in our world. Maybe by raising awareness people will speak out and gov. will begin to act to help those in need regardless of being 'black' or 'white'.
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:14 pm |
Quoting robin01: heidi..im not sure that ur post has much relevance here..the messages are good and yet pathetic..ummm interesting..i can tell u r 16 years old..this was a lighthearted discussion..i was born here..im entitled to stay where i like..perhaps u should mature a little before feeling the need to respond quite so drastically..  |
This is the most arrogant post I think I have ever seen on this site. And we have certainly seen quite a few lately...
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:16 pm |
ummmmm noo just cos im 16 dont mean you can tell me what to do and i can say what i want i was saying some are pathectic!!!!!!i no what im talking about anyway so if you dont i dont really care and i dont need to mature anymore thanks this will do fine.i think how i say stuff is mature enuff so dont be saying i need to meture!!!
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:20 pm |
umm..ur spelling is hreat..well maybe u shouldnt say i know where the door is..the last time i loooked there wasn't a door in or out of england..i pay my taxes have done for almost 6 years..im entitled to say what i like about england..maybe u should have clarified what u wanted to say a bit more..and sorry aenigma but it wasn't arrogant at all..just pointing out some facts..noone else was swearing or being rude to people..and yet heidilovesosman felt the need to do so...if u wish to support such actions thats up to you...
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:21 pm |
great i meant thats what i get for typing too fast
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:22 pm |
and looked tabii ki ;-0
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:23 pm |
well its true when this forum started it was nuffing to do with what is going on now!!!which confusses me!!!o you pay your taxes yup so does most of the people in uk!!!!!!
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:23 pm |
Omg,Erdinç.... We NEED YOUUUU.
Ok,we promise to be good girls,and not argue,but just come and draw a halt here !
Ok,to be more honest,we will TRY to be good girls..lol
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:28 pm |
and yes this thread has deviated somewhat from its original purpose..but that doesnt have a lot to do with the way u spoke to people using it...neway goodnight people ,take care and sweet dreamz xx
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:34 pm |
i really not understnd tht why people waiting help from erdinc they have no brain?
who dont wanna talk jst no post anytng thn who wanna deptade will be here.. dont wait help from pple all the time. everybody got energy and they can use it good or bad..up to them.. but no 1 force some 1 here fo post..
some people KASINIYO here...thts why they keep on posting even they got no reason..try to fight.. some 1 post here coz they really try to talk smtng..
teaschp and capo... they wrote their opinion how nice.. i like to read it.. it dosnt mean they fght.. mybe we can learn good smtng bad..
people can learn smtng with talk..and i dont thnk so this ladies try to fght .. i love their mind coz so clear..i wish people like tht around here..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:36 pm |
just to be honest
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 09:43 pm |
Quoting CANLI: just to be honest  |
dont worry canli i not wrote this coz of you.. i jst wanna say tht..i jst translte this post but bcme 13 page.. its good we saw people mind we learn smtng about their character..their personalty..
i dont wanna translte all the time same thngs.. i love you ..thn you love me.. or you r the man in mylife or i can die fo you.. everyday same thngs we here in this site..
can we talk smtng reality ?like capo and teaschp..can you see this 2 lady whn they talk look at their words how nice..special.. they deptade.. mybe some is wrong mybe good.. at least nice conversation..
any1 said bastard?or be rude no..who really wanna learn smtng really they show their mind alrdy..in this side..
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05 Oct 2006 Thu 11:32 pm |
This is getting totaly ridiculous and very offensive, children please grow up and stop posting on this thread. Someone please lock it!
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06 Oct 2006 Fri 12:48 am |
Quote: Quote: Quoting teaschip:
Just curious, why are you living in the U.S. if our governments so terrible? You also realize your tax dollars are contributing to the weapons that are being used in Iraq. Putting Sadaam Hussein on trial and your questioning this? Let me guess you voted for Carey. I apologize ahead of time for sounding harsh, however if you hate all of these things, maybe living abroad would be a better choice for you. |
I'm sorry I thought we had freedome of speech in our country. Which doesn't mean that I can 'only' live here if I agree with every act that our government does. I love how 'American' you sound by pointing out that if I speak my mind and deeply dislike anything I should pack my bag and leave. Well, honey I didn't ask to be brought here. If you didn't want my voice or my attitude go back and tell our founders to stop chaining africans to the bottom of boats and selling them in the U.S. That is how I got here. So, if I sound a little upset yes I am.. But after our nation stripped us of our culture, language, religion and nearly our humanity now you want to say leave! Please honey! I pay taxes and vote and I can HATE our government's actions. That is my right as a U.S. citizen. Also, I do not have a say as to where my tax dollars go...I voted and the candidate that I did not want to make this decision is still in office. I have to wait until next elections to voice my opinion and hopefully others will agree. Oh, and if you don't agree with me...you are welcome to even be my neighbor. I think our country should have diversity in ethnicity and opinions. |
You do have freedom of speech, my point exactely! But when you express yourself so negatively, I HATE this I HATE that it doesn't get you anywhere. I sound so American, because ironically enough I am. As far as being chained to a bottom of a boat and brought here, I think your exaggerating this. Maybe your ancestors, but then again it sounds like your playing this card like so many do. Let's blame the white people for everything. The Indians are who I feel bad for. I do agree with you on one thing, diversity is welcomed here. In fact, I welcome anyone who wants to come here to work and support our ecomony. I'm tired of supporting the welfare. |
Their own kind from Africa are the ones who actually organized the slave trades and sold them off to the white people to make money. So it wasn't just the white people. I have nothing against the person who said this.. but I must say: To bring up slavery, or to even say that she was forced to live here by being chained to a boat is just downright ridiculous and petty, it happened to the ancestors, not directly to you..
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06 Oct 2006 Fri 12:52 am |
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Leave this thread immediately ! STEP AWAY FROM THE THREAD! DROP ALL YOUR WEAPONS AND MOVE AWAY FROM THIS THREAD!
DANGER!
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06 Oct 2006 Fri 12:53 am |
Quoting tirrogan: and one thing more.for the americans.u will drown in ur own sea which u created like russia. |
what?! tirrogan I thought you liked america!
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06 Oct 2006 Fri 12:54 am |
Quoting aenigma x: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Leave this thread immediately ! STEP AWAY FROM THE THREAD! DROP ALL YOUR WEAPONS AND MOVE AWAY FROM THIS THREAD!
DANGER! |
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06 Oct 2006 Fri 01:10 am |
This thread has been LOCKED..in the name of lack of Panadol for all the headache it cause ! lol
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06 Oct 2006 Fri 02:08 am |
Quote: Quoting Capoeira:
You do have freedom of speech, my point exactely! But when you express yourself so negatively, I HATE this I HATE that it doesn't get you anywhere. I sound so American, because ironically enough I am. As far as being chained to a bottom of a boat and brought here, I think your exaggerating this. Maybe your ancestors, but then again it sounds like your playing this card like so many do. Let's blame the white people for everything. The Indians are who I feel bad for. I do agree with you on one thing, diversity is welcomed here. In fact, I welcome anyone who wants to come here to work and support our ecomony. I'm tired of supporting the welfare. |
Who is blaming 'white' people? I mentioned that to point out that I come from an oppressed people. 500 years of slavery and then Jim Crow laws are no exaggeration. It is a very sad part of our U.S. History that is clearly documented.
But you mentioned leaving here if I 'hate' something. I cannot leave here. My ancestors along with other sympathetic americans, white, asians, latinos etc. lost their lives, endured police dogs, beatings and torture so that I can vote, have a voice, have access to education. I 'hate' this part of our racist culture here! But, because they struggled so that I can be where I am, I cannot leave here and those still struggling for equality. You cannot deny our history nor its impact on our country today. I am staying to empower those who are being left behind, and since I have traveled outside of the U.S. I have seen how others live as well...I think as an American I should also be a voice for them. Others should know that bad things are happening in our world. Maybe by raising awareness people will speak out and gov. will begin to act to help those in need regardless of being 'black' or 'white'. |
Eva this is why I mentioned slavery. It is relevent to me and my history as a U.S. citizen and why I stay here.
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06 Oct 2006 Fri 02:25 am |
Eva:
Slavery and its results are present in the U.S. today. Racism is alive and thriving in our country. It just didn't happen to my 'ancestors'. My father remembers white only drinking fountains and having to sit in the back of the bus. As a child my teacher refused to teach me to read. It wasn't until my mother went to school did I learn how to read. My gym Physical Education teacher used to form two teams for playing sports, "whites" vs "blacks". Yet, I have never used any of this as an excuse to not succeed. However, because of these experiences I WILL NOT remain silent about how African Americans and people of color are still enduring racism and prejudice today. It is a sad fact and if you saw last years hurrican Katrina, it is quite visible.
Also if you research history about slavery, Africans practiced a different form of slavery for century. More like indentured servitude. Not the brutality that african slaves endured in the Americas & in the Caribbean.
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