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Thread: The God Delusion in Turkey

2921.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Dec 2007 Wed 02:58 am

“An atheist in this sense [of philosophical naturalist] is somebody who believes there is nothing beyond the natural, physical world, no supernatural creative intelligence lurking behind the observable universe, no soul that outlasts the body and no miracles – except in the sense of natural phenomena that we don't yet understand. As ever when we unweave a rainbow, it will not become less wonderful.” This is a definition of an atheist borrowed from a book written by the world's most influential biologist and the most famous atheist Richard Dawkins. Its name is “The God Delusion”. I bought it about a year ago. In his book, Dawkins who also holds a Chair at the Oxford University elegantly describes and defends his atheist views calling religious beliefs “the God Hypothesis”. He argues there is almost certainly no God whatsoever and “asserts the irrationality of belief in God and the grievous harm religion has inflicted on society, from the Crusades to 9/11.” (Text quoted from the book's cover.) Naturally, the professor of science seeks support for his arguments against the existence of a supernatural intelligence in the science and in the expressions of men of science. Indeed, the book is not only a methodical account of dry arguments; on the contrary, it is a very readable text full of great scientists' and thinkers' quotations, such as Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawkins or Ralph Waldo Emerson. So, professor Dawkins defines himself as an atheist, describes what he means by that and argues his position. A logical and even predictable conclusion for an evolutionist who already thirty-three years ago became famous for his theory of ‘reciprocal altruism' explained in his bestseller “The Selfish Gene” that was translated into almost thirty languages. “The God Delusion” is following the same path. It is being translated to other languages swiftly so that people who are interested in his views can approach them. Although it was published only last year, already 1.5 million copies have been sold all around the world, 6,000 of them in Turkey. Reader's Digest named Richard Dawkins author of the year and Galaxy British Book Awards (“the Oscar” of the book trade) awarded him with the same title. The best-selling book has been translated to the Turkish language thanks to the translator Erol Karaaslan and his publishing house, Kuzey.

Freedom of expression put to test

But alas, less then six months after the famed book became available also in Turkish, the issue made headlines broadcasted even on CNN International: A Turkish prosecutor launched an investigation into whether this best-selling book can incite a religious hatred in Turkey. The prosecutor acts on behalf of one reader's complain that some passages of the book were assaulting “sacred values”. Well, it is needless to refer to the freedom of expression or to the relativity of “right” and “false”. It is also quite unnecessary to emphasize that if this nonsensical official probe into the book results in a trial – that might end up with one-year sentence – the publisher would without any doubt seek (and find) justice before the Strasbourg court. And personally, I don't believe any prosecutor in a democratic country like Turkey could go “so far” as to start the prosecution on suggested grounds – independently on whether he believes there is God or agrees with professor Dawkins. Moreover, an investigation of this kind on behalf of a claim from a citizen can be opened – but also closed as fast as possible – in any other country.



However, the fact that such a probe was launched in Turkey and that it was launched right now are two unfortunate factors. The present climate vis-à-vis freedom of expression has been the subject of criticism both internally and externally: Cases under article 301, some with dire consequences, of implied censorship and on the top of the “secularists vs. Islamists” debate. Simply, an investigation into whether an atheist book can be published in a secular country is ridiculous and doesn't suit Turkey at all. On the contrary, what we should do at this stage is invite Mr. Dawkins to Turkey to discuss his views here publicly; as should be the case in any other pluralist democracy.
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=90179



Thread: Sex and the City

2922.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Dec 2007 Wed 12:54 am

can we turn to a new page!



Thread: Sex and the City

2923.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 26 Dec 2007 Wed 12:42 am

YOU SAID IT, ALPHA



Thread: A lover's call...

2924.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2007 Tue 10:32 pm

Leelu, I think you will also like his quotations I added to this link. Go have a look.



Thread: A lover's call...

2925.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2007 Tue 10:26 pm

To understand the heart and mind of a person, look not at what he has already achieved, but at what he aspires to do.

And in the sweetness of friendship let there be laughter and the sharing of pleasures. For in the dew of little things the heart finds its morning and is refreshed

Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need.

The real in us is silent; the acquired is
talkative.

Every man loves two women;the one is the creation of his imagination and the other is not yet born.

God made Truth with many doors to welcome every believer who knocks on them.

In the sweetness of friendship; let there be laughter and the sharing of pleasures. For in the dew of little things the heart finds its morning and is refreshed.

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars.

The lights of stars that were extinguished ages ago still reaches us. So it is with great men who died centuries ago, but still reach us with the radiations of their personalities.




Thread: A lover's call...

2926.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2007 Tue 10:00 pm

Gibran Khalil Gibran was born on January 6, 1883, to the Maronite family of Gibran in Bsharri, a mountainous area in Northern Lebanon.

Lebanon was a Turkish province part of Greater Syria (Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine) and subjugated to Ottoman dominion, which granted the Mount Lebanon area autonomous rule. The people of Mount Lebanon had struggled for several years to gain independence from the Ottoman rule, a cause Gibran was later to adopt and become an active member in. The Mount Lebanon area was a troubled region, due to the various outside and foreign interferences that fostered religious hatred between the Christian, especially the Maronite sect, and Moslem populations. Later in his life, Gibran was to seek and unite the various religious sects, in a bid to abolish the religious snobbery, persecution and atrocities witnessed at his time. The Maronite sect, formed during the schism in the Byzantine church in the 5th century A.D., was made up of a group of Syrian Christians, who joined the monk St. Marun to lead their own sectarian thought.

Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need.

The real in us is silent; the acquired is
talkative.

Every man loves two women;the one is the creation of his imagination and the other is not yet born.

God made Truth with many doors to welcome every believer who knocks on them.

In the sweetness of friendship; let there be laughter and the sharing of pleasures. For in the dew of little things the heart finds its morning and is refreshed.

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars.




Thread: Tarsus to offer cave tourism for visitors

2927.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2007 Tue 08:00 pm

The cave, which is around 15 kilometers from Mersin's Tarsus district, was found some time ago during road construction in the area and further examinations inside the cave revealed a hidden tunnel as well as a number of smaller galleries connected to this tunnel. The height of the tunnel is 10 meters in some places. There are also many stalactites, stalagmites and wall travertine in the galleries.



Thread: Mt Nemrut: Eighth wonder of the ancient world

2928.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2007 Tue 07:50 pm

'Throughout my whole life I was seen by all to be of my kingdom the most trustworthy guardian, and one who considered holiness to be an inimitable joy.

Because of this, great dangers did I unexpectedly escape, and unhoped-for deeds did I skillfully accomplish, and a life of many years did I fill out in blessed fashion.’


The very remoteness gives Nemrut its unique appeal. Where else in the world can statues of Greek/Persian gods up to eight meters in height and weighing up to 105 tons be found at the very summit of a 2,150-meter peak? Add to this the mystery of the whereabouts of Antiochus’ final resting place, the stunning sunrises and sunsets which bathe the statues in a soft, warm light, and you can begin to see why Nemrut is now the most visited site in southeast Anatolia -- despite the hassle of getting there.



Thread: Turkish police stop would-be bomber in Istanbul

2929.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2007 Tue 07:30 am

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/24/europe/EU-GEN-Turkey-Thwarted-Bombing.php



Thread: Roma neighborhood of Sulukule awaits demolition

2930.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Dec 2007 Tue 06:59 am

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=75344

men dancing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l3mmpT_wyQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nx7VvXJlNM&feature=related



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