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Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!
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2680. |
22 Sep 2008 Mon 11:36 pm |
Sorry....but I really don´t understand your point here. I am talking about the basic right to not be censored because SOME people are uncomfortable with a subject.
Do you only want discussions when there is some conculsion to them?
It is not a matter of SOME people, it is not patronizing of these some people. What are the limits to your basic rights? Will you as well let people publish here Kurdistan maps and discuss about what new borders Turkey should have? Well, I doubt if you would even care about it!!!
It is not a personal matter, it is a national issue, it is not because we do not just wish something to be discussed because we do not agree. Hell it is just a wish not to discuss an active TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Or will we as well open it to discussion whether it is a terrorist organization or not for your freedom of speech?!
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2681. |
22 Sep 2008 Mon 11:42 pm |
Ahhh dear Meltem. I have had to listen to YEARS of argument that the IRA "had a point" and that they should not be regarded as terrorists.
I also hear the views about the west, shared by Bin Ladan echoed on this site.
I have never asked for the subject to be hidden or deleted.
So why is it only PKK we must avoid talking about?
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2682. |
22 Sep 2008 Mon 11:44 pm |
 Well I have watched many documentaries Sui, and I don´t base all my views on just one TV show! 
Fahrenheit 9/11 was a long time ago!! LOOL
It is a "Research", not the Big Brothers you watch on tv dear
and it was made on 2007
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2683. |
22 Sep 2008 Mon 11:46 pm |
It is a "Research", not the Big Brothers you watch on tv dear  and it was made on 2007 
Dont patronise me "dear" and are you seriously suggesting that you base your views on ONE documentary!!!!? 
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2684. |
22 Sep 2008 Mon 11:48 pm |
It is not a matter of SOME people, it is not patronizing of these some people. What are the limits to your basic rights? Will you as well let people publish here Kurdistan maps and discuss about what new borders Turkey should have? Well, I doubt if you would even care about it!!!
It is not a personal matter, it is a national issue, it is not because we do not just wish something to be discussed because we do not agree. Hell it is just a wish not to discuss an active TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Or will we as well open it to discussion whether it is a terrorist organization or not for your freedom of speech?!
Look mltm..
What we are writing and discussing here is not a crime..OK?
All the sources are LEGAL in Turkey..OK? (can you show me ONE, just one source I have givenhere which was not legal?)
Kurdish issue is not as taboo as it used to be.. OK?
we are trying to get inline with EU´s laws..OK?
And therefore censoring the ideas is NOT acceptable anymore..OK?
By saying that "we Turks censor the things" is an INSULT TO Turkishness..OK?
And it is hugely embarresing..OK?
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2685. |
22 Sep 2008 Mon 11:51 pm |
It is not a matter of SOME people, it is not patronizing of these some people. What are the limits to your basic rights? Will you as well let people publish here Kurdistan maps and discuss about what new borders Turkey should have? Well, I doubt if you would even care about it!!!
It is not a personal matter, it is a national issue, it is not because we do not just wish something to be discussed because we do not agree. Hell it is just a wish not to discuss an active TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Or will we as well open it to discussion whether it is a terrorist organization or not for your freedom of speech?!
You haven´t a clue what I do or don´t care about and I don´t see why you want to make this personal.
The limits to basic rights are in topics being censored! I ask over and over....why are people so afraid of discussions and yet I have yet to see a real answer!
No one is supporting TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS!!!
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2686. |
22 Sep 2008 Mon 11:55 pm |
 Dont patronise me "dear" and are you seriously suggesting that you base your views on ONE documentary!!!!? 
Nope, my opions can not be based on one documentary ofcourse, and i take it really sarcastic and sad to be face with such question.
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2687. |
23 Sep 2008 Tue 12:00 am |
Nope, my opions can not be based on one documentary ofcourse, and i take it really sarcastic and sad to be face with such question.
Well I apologise (but you were being equally sarcastic with your Big Brother implication! )
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2688. |
23 Sep 2008 Tue 12:01 am |
Look mltm..
What we are writing and discussing here  is not a crime..OK?
All the sources are LEGAL in Turkey..OK? (can you show me ONE, just one source I have givenhere  which was not legal?)
Kurdish issue is not as taboo as it used to be.. OK?
we are trying to get inline with EU´s laws..OK?
And therefore censoring the ideas is NOT acceptable anymore..OK?
By saying that "we Turks censor the things" is an INSULT TO Turkishness..OK?
And it is hugely embarresing..OK?
Are you trying to get inline with EU laws with the discrimating government and their supporters? who they call themselves "us"? what is the value of others thinking?
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2689. |
23 Sep 2008 Tue 12:03 am |
You haven´t a clue what I do or don´t care about and I don´t see why you want to make this personal.
The limits to basic rights are in topics being censored! I ask over and over....why are people so afraid of discussions and yet I have yet to see a real answer!
No one is supporting TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS!!!
Sorry GG you are wrong, she obviously does have a clue. Meltem has the power to look into our minds - she has already told me today that I do not give a **** about the issue because I am not aware of its sensitivity.
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2690. |
23 Sep 2008 Tue 12:05 am |
Sorry GG you are wrong, she obviously does have a clue. Meltem has the power to look into our minds - she has already told me today that I do not give a **** about the issue because I am not aware of its sensitivity.
Hmmm.....I wonder if she can tell what I am thinking right now! 
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