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Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!
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23 Sep 2008 Tue 12:59 am |
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How come we are forced to be so sensitive when discussing the PKK, Ataturk, Article 301, Armenian Genocide and many other issues regarding Turkey. But when it comes to the west, I have to endure support to Bid Laden, Bush bashing, Native American Genocide and criticism after criticism over the Iraqi War. You mention one negative thing about radical islamists, or topics mention above, we resort to changing the rules. You can´t change the rules as you go, you must establish them in the first place. Of course not everyone will be content, but at least you have set the foundation for what is expected. If you keep changing what is acceptable and what isn´t it results to chaos and disorder.
I understand this is a Turkish Language site, but if it´s meant to be a visitors burea and everything should be positive and glorified to attract visitors to Turkey, you may want to remove the General/Off Topic and get sponsorship from the Turkish government. I would imagine most people coming to this site to learn about Turkey are foreigners. So shouldn´t this site be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks who should already know their history & language. It just appears everytime we make changes here, it´s due to appeasing others because their offended. No matter how hard you try, someone will always take offense to something. I think it´s a no win situation.
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| 2701. |
23 Sep 2008 Tue 01:16 am |
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these posts starting with "look Mltm!!" and followed by "ok`s" remind me of the communication style of some certain type of people. when will you come up with the "be clever" warnings, thehandsom?
I don`t think we need a Kemal Kerincsiz here
why dont you add "look Mltm!! and followed by ok" into Those Things Which May Not Be Named.. thread?
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| 2702. |
23 Sep 2008 Tue 01:17 am |
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23 Sep 2008 Tue 01:19 am |
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these posts starting with "look Mltm!!" and followed by "ok`s" remind me of the communication style of some certain type of people. when will you come up with the "be clever" warnings, thehandsom?
I don`t think we need a Kemal Kerincsiz here
Communication style of WHAT kind of people? 
Meltem´s friends?
Fellow vivisectionists?
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23 Sep 2008 Tue 01:20 am |
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How come we are forced to be so sensitive when discussing the PKK, Ataturk, Article 301, Armenian Genocide and many other issues regarding Turkey. But when it comes to the west, I have to endure support to Bid Laden, Bush bashing, Native American Genocide and criticism after criticism over the Iraqi War. You mention one negative thing about radical islamists, or topics mention above, we resort to changing the rules. You can´t change the rules as you go, you must establish them in the first place. Of course not everyone will be content, but at least you have set the foundation for what is expected. If you keep changing what is acceptable and what isn´t it results to chaos and disorder.
I understand this is a Turkish Language site, but if it´s meant to be a visitors burea and everything should be positive and glorified to attract visitors to Turkey, you may want to remove the General/Off Topic and get sponsorship from the Turkish government. I would imagine most people coming to this site to learn about Turkey are foreigners. So shouldn´t this site be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks who should already know their history & language. It just appears everytime we make changes here, it´s due to appeasing others because their offended. No matter how hard you try, someone will always take offense to something. I think it´s a no win situation.
Good post teaschip 
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23 Sep 2008 Tue 01:22 am |
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How come we are forced to be so sensitive when discussing the PKK, Ataturk, Article 301, Armenian Genocide and many other issues regarding Turkey. But when it comes to the west, I have to endure support to Bid Laden, Bush bashing, Native American Genocide and criticism after criticism over the Iraqi War. You mention one negative thing about radical islamists, or topics mention above, we resort to changing the rules. You can´t change the rules as you go, you must establish them in the first place. Of course not everyone will be content, but at least you have set the foundation for what is expected. If you keep changing what is acceptable and what isn´t it results to chaos and disorder.
I understand this is a Turkish Language site, but if it´s meant to be a visitors burea and everything should be positive and glorified to attract visitors to Turkey, you may want to remove the General/Off Topic and get sponsorship from the Turkish government. I would imagine most people coming to this site to learn about Turkey are foreigners. So shouldn´t this site be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks who should already know their history & language. It just appears everytime we make changes here, it´s due to appeasing others because their offended. No matter how hard you try, someone will always take offense to something. I think it´s a no win situation.
Beautiful! 
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| 2706. |
23 Sep 2008 Tue 01:34 am |
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 when did you become so vicious, thehandsom?
  
 
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23 Sep 2008 Tue 01:34 am |
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(Not look) mltm has locked a thread of mine :
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_33845
with the reason that :
No one should favor any kind of inhuman, violent acts, however dedicating a thread just to show what inhuman acts have been done to some terrorists is not acceptable while these terrorists have been continously killing civils and innocent people in an inhuman way.
The thread is locked and will be deleted in 24 hours.
Now I am asking.
trying to censor a news article ´about the a TORTURE case´ protecting the torturers or not?
(btw. In the past I have witnessed many attempts by the government of Turkey that they were very very angry with the publications which published these stories..)
And these are the rules:
13. Posts supporting/sympathising with PKK or any other terrorist organization are forbidden. Such posts and their owners may be deleted from the site.
14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.
Clearly my post is not violating above rules..
we will see if it is still be deleted..
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| 2708. |
23 Sep 2008 Tue 05:55 am |
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İ havent done the last HW for the week and time almost ended 
Such a long day !
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| 2709. |
23 Sep 2008 Tue 11:33 am |
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How come we are forced to be so sensitive when discussing the PKK, Ataturk, Article 301, Armenian Genocide and many other issues regarding Turkey. But when it comes to the west, I have to endure support to Bid Laden, Bush bashing, Native American Genocide and criticism after criticism over the Iraqi War. You mention one negative thing about radical islamists, or topics mention above, we resort to changing the rules. You can´t change the rules as you go, you must establish them in the first place. Of course not everyone will be content, but at least you have set the foundation for what is expected. If you keep changing what is acceptable and what isn´t it results to chaos and disorder.
I understand this is a Turkish Language site, but if it´s meant to be a visitors burea and everything should be positive and glorified to attract visitors to Turkey, you may want to remove the General/Off Topic and get sponsorship from the Turkish government. I would imagine most people coming to this site to learn about Turkey are foreigners. So shouldn´t this site be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks who should already know their history & language. It just appears everytime we make changes here, it´s due to appeasing others because their offended. No matter how hard you try, someone will always take offense to something. I think it´s a no win situation.
İ agree with you,that most people who comes to this site to learn about Türkiye are foreigners,and who do this,who offer he information that we seek are the TURKS
Who offer translations,who offer personal experience,who give advice...etc that kind of things which you dont find in books nor google,thats why we come to site like this.
So you think that the site should be more open-minded to catering to us, rather than to Turks
And not taking Turks into considerations ? the one who offer the information and teach us about history,cultural and language?!
What would you call that ?!
Havent you notice something from above posts and the other thread AE has just opened it ?
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_34227
That your opinions are almost the same,you all see things from same angle ´almost´
And also if you review the other opinions,you would see that we almost see things same too,from same angle,but one that is DİFFERENT than yours.
Doesnt this tell you something ? ´you not personal´
That we have different measures than each other,we take things differently,we can be highly offended by things you may see them normal.
We put some things in highly positions,give them the ultimate respect ,at same time you dont think same about them...etc
So we are different...you cant measure us according to your rules,and also we cantdo same thing according to ours!
So actually i dont think its logic to offend someone and ask for his help later...dont you think ?
As for Bush/İraq/US politics...etc its different story,you interfere in our affairs,invade our lands,and you dont want us to have a saying about it?!
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23 Sep 2008 Tue 12:43 pm |
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(Not look) mltm has locked a thread of mine :
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_33845
with the reason that :
No one should favor any kind of inhuman, violent acts, however dedicating a thread just to show what inhuman acts have been done to some terrorists is not acceptable while these terrorists have been continously killing civils and innocent people in an inhuman way.
The thread is locked and will be deleted in 24 hours.
Now I am asking.
trying to censor a news article ´about the a TORTURE case´ protecting the torturers or not?
(btw. In the past I have witnessed many attempts by the government of Turkey that they were very very angry with the publications which published these stories..)
And these are the rules:
13. Posts supporting/sympathising with PKK or any other terrorist organization are forbidden. Such posts and their owners may be deleted from the site.
14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.
Clearly my post is not violating above rules..
we will see if it is still be deleted..
Firstly, there is a comment of you in the start of the article you gave. You do not just give the article. You make a comparison with war crimes whilst it is NOT a war with this terrorist organization. It is a fight and a struggle against them to stop their crimes in a legal country.
And it is in the rules that the decision can base on "personal judgement". So, clearly your post can be locked or deleted.
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