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2710.       mltm
3690 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 12:43 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

(Not look) mltm has locked a thread of mine :

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_33845

with the reason that :

No one should favor any kind of inhuman, violent acts, however dedicating a thread just to show what inhuman acts have been done to some terrorists is not acceptable while these terrorists have been continously killing civils and innocent people in an inhuman way.

 

The thread is locked and will be deleted in 24 hours.

Now I am asking.

trying to censor a news article ´about the a TORTURE case´ protecting the torturers or not?

 

(btw. In the past I have witnessed many attempts by the government of Turkey that they were very very angry with the publications which published these stories..)

And these are the rules:

13. Posts supporting/sympathising with PKK or any other terrorist organization are forbidden. Such posts and their owners may be deleted from the site.

14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.

Clearly my post is not violating above rules..

we will see if it is still be deleted..lol

  Firstly, there is a comment of you in the start of the article you gave. You do not just give the article. You make a comparison with war crimes whilst it is NOT a war with this terrorist organization. It is a fight and a struggle against them to stop their crimes in a legal country.  

And it is in the rules that the decision can base on  "personal judgement". So, clearly your post can be locked or deleted.

2711.       WarTrain
325 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 01:27 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

The thread is locked and will be deleted in 24 hours.

Now I am asking.

trying to censor a news article ´about the a TORTURE case´ protecting the torturers or not?

 

{#lang_emotions_wtf}

Offfffffff TC used to be above this kind of censorship.

It is very sad

2712.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 02:08 pm

 

Quoting mltm

  Firstly, there is a comment of you in the start of the article you gave. You do not just give the article. You make a comparison with war crimes whilst it is NOT a war with this terrorist organization. It is a fight and a struggle against them to stop their crimes in a legal country.  

And it is in the rules that the decision can base on  "personal judgement". So, clearly your post can be locked or deleted.

I am telling you that it does not fall into the rules admin specified..

And you are saying that ´personal judgment´!!

Can you tell me how you managed to put it into items 13 and 14 in your personal judgment ?

lol lol

 

 

2713.       mltm
3690 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 02:23 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I am telling you that it does not fall into the rules admin specified..

And you are saying that ´personal judgment´!!

Can you tell me how you managed to put it into items 13 and 14 in your personal judgment ?

lol lol

 

I thought your english were better than mine. It can be deleted because you do not only put the article but you added your opinion and comment about it. And above all in the rules it says "even these" which include the articles and government decision not even your comment, can be removed.

 

 14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.

2714.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 02:28 pm

 

Quoting mltm

I thought your english were better than mine. It can be deleted because you do not only put the article but you added your opinion and comment about it. And above all in the rules it says "even these" which include the articles and government decision not even your comment, can be removed.

 

 14. Since PKK is a very sensitive topic, discussion of PKK in the forums is limited only to (i) reporting news about a terrorist attack or (ii) reporting a government decision related to PKK. Even these, and related comments may be removed by an administrator or moderator based on personal judgement.

 

It is not about PKK..

IT is about A TORTURE case..(It does not change the fact that it is done to a PKK member..Torture is torture)

I thought you would see that!!

If you think it is a torture case as no PKK is  mentioned WHAT SO EVER will you open the thread?

2715.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 03:28 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

As for  Bush/İraq/US politics...etc its different story,you interfere in our affairs,invade our lands,and you dont want us to have a saying about it?!

 

So anything that occurs in OUR lands, maybe concerning Turks, Egyptians, Muslims in general, is only OUR concern? Great. Deal. No more comment about the politics, local and national, INSIDE other countries then. For example, if a government forbids scarfs, you are not allowed to discuss because it´s the concern of the government of THAT country and the people live in it.

2716.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 04:34 pm

Maybe I am just tired from the hurricane or perhaps I am just a "silly girl" but Roswitha has been critised for posting articles with no opinion.....now some people are being critised for posting articles with opinions.....are we saying that we can only post opinions with certain articles and not all articles and if so, may we have a list of articles that need an opinion and those that don´t....will somebody please translate what I just typed because I confused myself.....or should this be moved to another forum....I donnu....I am SO CONFUSED!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}

2717.       azade
1606 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 04:40 pm

I protest against favoring a few narrow-minded users and sculpturing rules just to please them. There are many other topics that are sensitive as well, so why don´t the rulers of this site just ban all the subjects listed in the TTWMNBN thread too instead of setting up half rules directed towards certain users. Maybe we should even have a vote - to insure that no fragile minds are hurt by the lack of a wall of censor.

2718.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 04:41 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

So anything that occurs in OUR lands, maybe concerning Turks, Egyptians, Muslims in general, is only OUR concern? Great. Deal. No more comment about the politics, local and national, INSIDE other countries then. For example, if a government forbids scarfs, you are not allowed to discuss because it´s the concern of the government of THAT country and the people live in it.

 

 

 

Quoting Elisabeth

Maybe I am just tired from the hurricane or perhaps I am just a "silly girl" but Roswitha has been critised for posting articles with no opinion.....now some people are being critised for posting articles with opinions.....are we saying that we can only post opinions with certain articles and not all articles and if so, may we have a list of articles that need an opinion and those that don´t....will somebody please translate what I just typed because I confused myself.....or should this be moved to another forum....I donnu....I am SO CONFUSED!!!{#lang_emotions_scared}

 

 

2719.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 04:43 pm

 

Quoting azade

I protest against favoring a few narrow-minded users and sculpturing rules just to please them. There are many other topics that are sensitive as well, so why don´t the rulers of this site just ban all the subjects listed in the TTWMNBN thread too instead of setting up half rules directed towards certain users. Maybe we should even have a vote - to insure that no fragile minds are hurt by the lack of a wall of censor.

 

lol

2720.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Sep 2008 Tue 04:47 pm

 

Quoting azade

I protest against favoring a few narrow-minded users and sculpturing rules just to please them. There are many other topics that are sensitive as well, so why don´t the rulers of this site just ban all the subjects listed in the TTWMNBN thread too instead of setting up half rules directed towards certain users. Maybe we should even have a vote - to insure that no fragile minds are hurt by the lack of a wall of censor.

 

 I think you and I are going to be friends!{#lang_emotions_flowers}

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