There was a fantastic a series of articles about honor killings from Roberts Fisk in the independent last week.

In one of them he says:

Iraqi Kurds, Palestinians in Jordan, Pakistan and Turkey appear to be the worst offenders but media freedoms in these countries may over-compensate for the secrecy which surrounds "honour" killings in Egypt ´ which untruthfully claims there are none ´ and other Middle East nations in the Gulf and the Levant. But honour crimes long ago spread to Britain, Belgium, Russia and Canada and many other nations. Security authorities and courts across much of the Middle East have connived in reducing or abrogating prison sentences for the family murder of women, often classifying them as suicides to prevent prosecutions.

It is difficult to remain unemotional at the vast and detailed catalogue of these crimes. How should one react to a man ´ this has happened in both Jordan and Egypt ´ who rapes his own daughter and then, when she becomes pregnant, kills her to save the "honour" of his family? Or the Turkish father and grandfather of a 16-year-old girl, Medine Mehmi, in the province of Adiyaman, who was buried alive beneath a chicken coop in February for "befriending boys"? Her body was found 40 days later, in a sitting position and with her hands tied.

(there was even a case in London recently!!)

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http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-crimewave-that-shames-the-world-2072201.html (just read and cry really!!)

DD is right to say that in many countries honor killings are being treated more different than the other killings..Those type of crimes are seen justified morally. This moral justification is reflected in many areas in life: Like,  police dont treat the person the way he deserves. In some rural areas, they ignore the evidence; they pretend they did not see or hear anything; judges are more symphatetic etc..

Even in jail they are treated differently and hugely respected if their crime is ´honor killing´.

This is not just a christian thing Arafta. And fathers raping their daughters is not a christian tradition and is not limited to "christian countries". There are Muslim men, in muslim countries that also rape their own daughters, it is called incest.

In the Gaza Strip, Saudi, Lebanon, Irak, Jordan

A June 2008 report by the Turkish Prime Ministry´s Human Rights Directorate, says that in Istanbul alone, there is one honor killing every week;

A 16-year-old girl had been buried alive by relatives for befriending boys in Southeast Turkey; her corpse was only found 40 days after she went missing.

Would you like some more?

Turkey: In Turkey, persons found guilty of this crime are sentenced to life in prison.[76] There are well documented cases, where Turkish courts have sentenced whole families to life imprisonment for an honor killing. The most recent was on January 13, 2009, where a Turkish Court sentenced five members of the same Kurdish family to life imprisonment for the "honour killing" of Naile Erdas, 16, who got pregnant as a result of rape.

source:wikipedia






ahh those bloody Turks oppressing Kurds!

Edited (9/13/2010) by Arafta

just because you avoid the word muslims doesn`t mean you are not referring to them. your fake "political correctness" doesn`t work here.

I guess it is naive to think the world is beautiful.

I guess it is naive to think that everyone can get along.

I guess it is naive to think that there can be a world without war.

I guess it is naive to think that people are not defined by their religion, skin color or gender.

I guess it is naive to think that we can all live together without killing each other.

I guess it is naive to think that children can have a real childhood without being raped, maimed or killed.

Well if it is naive to think all of that I would rather be labelled a naive woman and have people call me a fake and call me every name in the book.  But I know that I have retained one thing from my childhood.  Everyone is a good person and the world is a beautiful place and in my eyes no one is better than the other, there  is no religion creating barriers between people and there is no war.

That is what I am, naive, because there are wars, people die and people kill, religion creates barriers amongs people and the world is ugly.  But I hope to see a little bit of beauty in this world before I die just as I have seen when I was a child.

enough drama already. if you can`t handle an argument you can simply admit that you were wrong. don`t worry I won`t bully you.

you know what Arafta you are not worth it!

If you consider what I wrote drama you have a serious problem.

If people do not agree with you they are fakes.

If they have their own point of views they are racist or what ever.

A bigot call another a bigot, plain and simple.

I have never called someone here a bigot but I guess that`s what you consider yourself to be.

your interpratation not mine