of course asking for the mohther tounge is a right, but the whole fish starts to stink when the strongest advoates of the kurdish mother tounge are the european countries like germany and holland, who are into serious assimilation politics against foreign ethnicities themselves and destroying the "foreigners" childrens mother tounge in their countries. that france who declared herself the knight of freedom literally kicked all of the gypsies out of her borders and are now trying to wipe out an ethnic group called tuaregs from mali. forgive me if i am skeptical to the "mother tounge" style agitations from these people.

another problem comes from the fact that kurds take up 8% of the population while 17% is made up of OTHER ethnic groups and they are also need to be given their mother tounge and whatever else rights if kurds are given these rights. but only kurds get it. gypsies are still being tormented. why? because kurds were misrepresnted by pkk who used guns and killed people. so what, does this mean you will get your rights in turkey only if you get some gang kill people in your name? this is the message that is unintentionally being given to that 17% other ethnicities. do you know what çerkez people are doing right now? theyre going around forming their own guild and start questioning if they should ask for their own autonomy also. what do you think will happen if every single ethnicity does this? what do you will happen if 75 turkish ethnicities also decide to own their own autonomy? will there be a turkey anymore? isnt this the whole goal of greece etc?

every logical person wants peace. even the most warrior one. so dont label everyone who criticizes the steps taken during this peace process as peace-haters who are disturbed by this. its not. actually all we want is the removal of every singe potential obstacle that could dispel the flow of this process.

excuse me if i refuse to believe that pkk is a kurdish movement and connected with kurd teali guild back in the world war 1. its true that these guilds and cemiyets have been worked upon for almost like 200 years and their situation constantly misrepresented and improved for centuries, but i dont think that pkk is a result of this. its true that they used this misconception to help themselves with numbers, but if you take a moment and think about their tactics and the dates that they have started "working" you will see that the core strategy is far from a simple rebellion or a result of "fake assimilation".

if pkk was directly related with the mistreatment of kurds, this movement would have died as soon as it started. it wouldve died at 60, or 80, like the rest of such people-based movements. but any eneral in the army will tell you that pkk is a foreign threat that takes its strenght from beyond the border, syria, iran and iraq. everybody knows that they have training camps almost everywhere, greece and israel being the top most. do you know any other ethnicity-related movement that received so much foreign support anywhere else in the world?

if it was a simple final-chain-of-the-eastern-rebellions than 1- 5 million kurds would be supporting it and the country wouldve turned upside down 2- the ethnic demographics of pkk would not include a 60% armenian rate 3- they wouldnt be using heavy weapons such as mortars, rocket launchers, anti air missles, light cannons and light weapons which were all more advanced than the ones that being were used by the turkish army in 90s, they would be using simple handguns.

plus its a bit far-off guess to think that this teali and cemiyet movements that were parented by britian and france in ww1 are still being supported and seriously worked upon by england at the moment. i dont know france though. but i dont think their intelligence is as advanced to work above and around the american, iranian, barzani and israeli intelligence in the region.

i do agree however that this fight has hit the knife to the bone and everybody is sick and tired of it and no foreign games can change the turkish mind that is set for peace right now.

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What is going on? What agreement? What terrorists?

because the first time they arrived they were being directed by a singular command, so now they are also retreating with an order coming from a singular commandment. you should instead ask yourself how this comes in sycn with the sudden israel apology and replacement of the syrian seat with the government repserenstative with the rebel representative and how n. korea goes berserk while usa gives the final line to iran.

we all know that both the engineer of the pkk peace and the israeli apology is obama. so obama is your guarantee. pkk is not a collective eşkıya act or ethnicity-based rebellion thing as its believed to be. this sudden cease of all violence in the past few months is a clear sign of this collective commanding network.

and believe me even if they want to return they will have to replenish their numbers seriously and that will take some time.

it doesnt bother us that terrorists leave the country. it bothers us if they will continue their actions from outside and will tour europes and americas as a reward for their violent actions. there are 30.000 casulties and these people have families. if your family member was also killed by someone you would also want to see those people punished by the athorities instead of being let go by the authorities. but regardless of this fact, many of the matyr families and the families whose children died while fighting for pkk support peace and agreement without any condition.

as well as i do. though not without condition

I like Turkish coffee but I cannot think of it as real coffee. If I had to give up real coffee I doubt if Turkish coffee would even alleviate my withdrawal symptoms.

AlphaF means they should be put in cold storage first.

Maybe you brought it but WE made it TASTE good!  Now you´re still drinking that bitter dark drink while dreaming about our tasty starbucks but you´re afraid to admit it.