Condoms cannot completely prevent the spreading of viral diseases like HIV. Viri are extremely small creatures, they can even penetrate through the pores of porcelain. They are not even 100% successful in preventing unwanted pregnancies.

This is funny...

If you want to get everything all at once, this is usually what happens...

Everything starts with individualism; the more of it the better it gets; that a person can do whatever he/she wants unless he/she directly harms others becomes the norm at the expense of so many indirect harms potentially possible like in the case of regulations governing the use of narcotics in Holland.

People from the same country with swollen egos about what they are authorized to do, see nothing wrong in belittling Muslims with cartoons depicting their prophet as a terrorist. In my opinion this and many other such acts are merely acts of provocation designed to create friction between cultures and it serves the further alienation of cultures and belief systems from one another.

Nudists wishing to hold their own religious community and to maintain their church services is one such example. Nudity by its very nature is an essential disregard of established cultural norms and it is an act of defiance. The reasoning works like this, we prefer to be nude because being nude is being more natural hence being close to God in other words we are entitled to forming our own church too. We believe in the virtues of nudity and we do not care how others regard us. We would like to have the best of both worlds.

One would say, hey come on, cut the dramatics and wear those bloody garments to the church just on Sundays.

The original question about how Turkish men dump their girl friends doesn´t have a proper answer that applies to men of all ages, income groups or subcultural identities. Nevertheless, if we can narrow down the question and rephrase it like this :

How does a teenager who strictlly observes Turkish ways and traditions part with his girl friend?

Then I can say that most boys tend to be possesive in relations and vice versa. They like to control the other party as much as they can. They tend to be jealous and especially if they are conservative as well, they have problems opening up to each other and frequently run into problems with their families. Families being a part of the relationship with parents trying to control their offsprings´ affairs  problems and crises of all sorts are usually inevitable. Families can be restrictive especially if one of the lovers belongs to a different sociocultural level, income group, a sect (e.g. Alevite) or a race (e.g. Kurdish). Of the last two, sectarian awareness has always been a problem and the last one has become more problematic lately. In addition to personal, behavioural differences, there are a host of other factors determining the health of relationship.

When such relationships end, they usually end with a fight. Personality disorders are extremely rampant.  Predictably, people having dysfunctions of all sorts can´t maintain healthy relationships.

The attitude of most Turkish boys towards foreign girls is another story. I have personally observed many youngsters adopting an opportunistic attitude when getting into a relationship with a foreigner. Especially people who migrated to the big city in the hope of making it big here get frustrated by their poor lives and look to get a girl friend whom they regard as a stepping stone.  These people don´t pay any attention to the feelings of the foreign girl whom they have trapped. They usually dump them as soon as their need for such a relationship ends.

Unfortunately, part of this happens because these self centered people don´t even consider those poor girls as human beings. To them they are like the stars in the sky. They do not belong to their world so their feelings can be ignored. Plus, of course we must take into account the negative view certain conservative believers have about foreign women and foreign people in general.

Nevertheless, it is not possible to apply this to every single person in this relatively narrow group. It is just something that we see in this country. Problems of other kinds can be seen in all countries.

Thank you for welcoming me back.

Somehow I have found your messages worth answering, but I won´t any longer.

You are getting angry as a "moderator" and  decide to delete my message before even bothering to ask for a source and somehow still manage to remain a champion of freedom of speech... So far so inconsistent...

Keep thinking you love and defend Ataturk. By the look of the things it seems you are merely in love with his blue eyes.

Here is a quick translation of the addresses and statements "allegedly" made by Ataturk.

Dear Meltem, you must have been too lazy to translate them yourself. This is your proof. What do you see in these statements? I think we wouldn´t expect Ataturk to so openly denounce religion. That is why I  indicated in my message that the statement I quoted was an alleged one. As a matter of fact probably all of the messages quoted from your source are equally "alleged" in nature.

Since I have in excess of 3000 or so books in my library, I cannot instantly find the book where I quoted Ataturk´s words. I remember the title of the book as something like : "Ataturk´s Love Affairs." As far as I remember (read this some 5 years ago) he was making this statement to his French girl friend in a complaining tone.

"..then I ordered The Qoran to be translated; and it has been translated into Turkish for the first time. I also issued orders for the translation of a book on Mohammad´s life.. (Essential Ideas of Ataturk, Fethi Naci page 55)

"The sacred altars of mosques are the ultimate and the most efficient sources for  the spiritual and ethical nourishment of society. Addressing people in a way they can comprehend, appealing both the brain and the spirit will prop up the mortal existence of the Muslims, cleanse their brains and fortify their belief and inspire courage in their hearts."

"God is one and it is highly praised. May the peace and love of God be unto you. Our beloved master (Mohammad) was assigned as a messenger to tell people of the truth. The fundamentals of this are known to all of us and are plainly laid out in sacred Qoran. Our religion which has inspired people is the last one. It is the most perfect religion. Because our religion is in full comformity with reason and truth. (Ataturk´s Addresses c.2 page 93).

"Our religion is the most reasonable and most natural one. That is why, it is the last religion. For a religion to be natural it needs to comply with reason, technics, science and logic. Our religion complies with all these. In the social order of Islam no class is allowed privilege above others. Those who take such a privilege for granted act in an improper way. We don´t have an ecclesiastical class; we are all equal and we are bound to learn the rules of our religion in equality. (Ataturk´s Addresses and Statements."

"Our enemies accuse us of being under the influence of religion alluding that the recession and collapse we underwent is related to this fact. This is of course a mistake. Our religion has never required that women should fall behind men. What God orders is for muslim women and men to have learn about their religion together. Both women and men must seek this education, going wherever  knowledge is in order to  get this education. Anyone studying Islam and Turkish history will find out there are actually no restriction about those aspects of life which we believe are bound by thousands of rules. In Turkish society, those women who pursued their educations did never fall behind men in anyway, arguably they even surpassed them. (Atatürk´s Addresses and Statements page 2)

"Turkish people need to be more religious, I mean religious in the purest sense. I believe in religion just as I believe in truth. It contains nothing that objects to consciousness and development. Nevertheless, there is another religion in existence in this Asiatic community which is even more complicated and composed merely of superstition. These ignorant and helpless people will be illuminated when the time comes. If they cannot get near the light it means they have doomed themselves to destruction. We will save them (Ataturk and Religious Education, Religious Affairs Administration Publications page 32)

I would like to propose a toast to "freedom of speech committee". Now we are all free to question validity of this remark.

P.S. I have already promised to find the book where the quotation was made from but it will take time.

I wish all the religions went down the sink

Allegedly quoted from K. Atatürk

The radical Vahabbites of Saudi Arabia are the closest business associates of the business and political circles worldwide. Your small community may have problems with them but they are indeed completely free to continue with all of their medieval laws allowing public executions of sinners by sword.

There is no reason for criticizing or being against them. They are already sharing what they have with the West. They let the US use their soil for military activities and finance operations held against those who try to control their own national resources themselves.