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TURKISH PEOPLE VIEWS ON DIVORCE
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11 May 2007 Fri 12:57 am |
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Quoting panta rei: Quoting mltm: In fact, in Turkey the divorce rate is very low, very very low like %5 of all marriages. |
Yeah! How could you expect the opposite while a good number of women in Turkey don't even know where to divorce (in courts, for example?) and a great deal of women can't even dare to divorce?
Quoting mltm: This is really low compared to western countries. |
What a pity! Because at least those women in Western countries doesn't have to spend the rest of their life with their husbands with whom they can't live together.
Quoting mltm: I have the impresiion that (maybe wrong) the divorces with foreign women are much more frequant. |
Maybe. But even this would be partly because the western woman, when inevitable or necessary, could easily divorce her Turkish husband.
Quoting mltm: And for the turks, the opinion of their parents, or other family elders are quite important. A mother or father that do not like the bride can have a big influence on the man. In your case, I guess, the family has had a big influence on him, |
Has his family been at the holiday for about 3 years? Where has their influence on him been, from the beginning to now?
Quoting mltm: and he might have missed his country and culture a lot, |
While marrying, he certainly didn't go to the country for the purpose "holiday" or "working", did he? You know, for example, the Turkish workers in Germany, miss Turkey a lot and sometimes comes to Turkey. |
panta rei, you indeed are a man ahead of your times! 
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11 May 2007 Fri 12:59 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting qdemir: It seems they are the remarks of a person who sounds s/he has failed to succeed in going beyond the early cognitive developmental stages which fall into the age of 0-3. In developmental and learning psychology generalization is prior to distinction.
A kid aged 0-3 thinks any person wearing a white coat is bad and s/he is afraid of any person in a white coat as s/he has had experience of an injection before. |
Thank you qdemir, I appreciate your skill with distinction  . Would it prove to you that I am 3.5 if I say that YOU are probably NOT a jerk, even though you're a Turk? |
catwoman, you never ever sound so much tolerant as intolerant, when other people on here critisize you. I won't insult you the way you have done above. If I reply you just like you have done there will not be a distinction between you and me.
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11 May 2007 Fri 01:04 am |
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Quoting qdemir: catwoman, you never ever sound so much tolerant as intolerant, when other people on here critisize you. I won't insult you the way you have done above. If I reply you just like you have done there will not be a distinction between you and me. |
what can I say, you have the right for your own opinion, but.. are you sure you read your previous post?? I thought I was just following your drift .
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11 May 2007 Fri 01:13 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting qdemir: catwoman, you never ever sound so much tolerant as intolerant, when other people on here critisize you. I won't insult you the way you have done above. If I reply you just like you have done there will not be a distinction between you and me. |
what can I say, you have the right for your own opinion, but.. are you sure you read your previous post?? I thought I was just following your drift . |
You have a vast number of such posts. If any other user had resorted the language you are always doing on any thread, that thread would have been already locked, and most likely s/he would have been in the list of deleted users. Being a mod on a site that has been built on behalf of you doesn't make the site your playground.
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11 May 2007 Fri 01:24 am |
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Quoting tommysbar: Hi I was just wondering what Turkish peoples views on divorce are...Im a young English woman who is married to a 24 year old Turkish man..we have been together 5 years married 3 and half years and have a young child together. We met in the Uk and were very happy until recently we started to have a few arguments over the amount of time he was spending away from home..and for the fact he booked a holiday to go to turkey to see his family without taking me and our child..I was not happy about this and told him that if he went it would hurt me so much because he had not included me in his plans..however he went not for the week that he told me but for almost 3 weeks..he didnt ring once whilst he was there..when he finally arrived back in england he told me our marriage was over..since then he hasnt been home ..and is going to see a solicitor to divorce I am very confused and would just like to know what turkish peoples views on divorce are. Thank you |
This reminds me of 'Umut Adasi' (a turkish movie about turkish immigrants in the UK. A good movie btw.)
Maybe, just like in the movie, there is a woman from his past (in Turkey), that he can't forget, since he didn't want to take you there in the first place.I don't think its just his families influence on him.
Sad really, especially when a child is there.
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11 May 2007 Fri 01:45 am |
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Quoting qdemir: You have a vast number of such posts. If any other user had resorted the language you are always doing on any thread, that thread would have been already locked, and most likely s/he would have been in the list of deleted users. Being a mod on a site that has been built on behalf of you doesn't make the site your playground. |
I found your previous post offensive and intolerant as well qdemir! I'm not even going to respond to your other accusations and attacks because they are completely hateful and ridiculous. Because I agree with cat_leo about turkish men, that makes me intolerant or a 3 year old? Please, look in the mirror before you preach!
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11 May 2007 Fri 01:48 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting mltm: Turkish men do not like to divorce, some of them even cheat but keep their marrigae. |
Perfect, you just forgot to add "cheat and beat their wifes". |
I'm fed up with your remarks about turks beating their wives. If someone listened to just your views about turkish men (ah, I forgot in fact according to you every muslim man beats his wife), she would think they were beasts. Yes, there're men (I call them bears) who beat their wives, and it's more than the europe but the majority does not!I just wrote "some" but as we all know your views about turks, we can change it to "all" in your case.
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11 May 2007 Fri 01:56 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting qdemir: You have a vast number of such posts. If any other user had resorted the language you are always doing on any thread, that thread would have been already locked, and most likely s/he would have been in the list of deleted users. Being a mod on a site that has been built on behalf of you doesn't make the site your playground. |
I found your previous post offensive and intolerant as well qdemir! I'm not even going to respond to your other accusations and attacks because they are completely hateful and ridiculous. Because I agree with cat_leo about turkish men, that makes me intolerant or a 3 year old? Please, look in the mirror before you preach! |
I don't intend to push this unpleasant argument further, and spend my time in vain either. Both your and my posts are available on the site to the third parties who would like to see.
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11 May 2007 Fri 05:23 am |
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Quoting qdemir: I don't intend to push this unpleasant argument further, and spend my time in vain either. |
Thank you, I'm glad!
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11 May 2007 Fri 05:46 am |
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Quoting mltm: I'm fed up with your remarks about turks beating their wives. If someone listened to just your views about turkish men (ah, I forgot in fact according to you every muslim man beats his wife), she would think they were beasts. Yes, there're men (I call them bears) who beat their wives, and it's more than the europe but the majority does not!I just wrote "some" but as we all know your views about turks, we can change it to "all" in your case. |
That makes it even, because I'm fed up with your hypocritic views and unchecked ideas as well!
Look mltm, I am speaking up for the men that are discriminated against on this web site, because everybody is only noticing the wonderful, loving Turkish men, but nobody cares at all that not all Turkish men are so wonderful or loving and people don't even care that such men exist! Even worse, some people once in a while make generalizations that ALL Turkish men are loving and wonderful! That is so terrible, I can't imagine how those not-so-wonderful men must feel about this! Somebody has to speak up for them!
There is another thing I'm wondering about... you posted a great article with statistics about abuse against women in the EU and you showed how prevalent and pervasive it is (which I agree with) and now you quietly acknowledged that it's even worse in Turkey (which I also agree with), then it sounds logical if you could change that "some" for me and make it "a lot" or "most". Don't be so shocked about it, this is the truth.
And I am not against Islam whatsoever, but against certain behavior. I know some muslims that are the kind of people I deeply admire, but they would never argue that women are less of humans then men or sit quiet when there is abuse.
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11 May 2007 Fri 10:38 am |
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I think the water has been wrung out of all the wet clothes until the clothes have ripped 
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