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130.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 16 Jan 2010 Sat 04:46 pm

They like us {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile} more..

131.       yakamozzz
398 posts
 16 Jan 2010 Sat 05:18 pm

 

Quoting ReyhanL

They like us {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile} more..

 

about 2 years now we don´t have to pay fo any visas anymore, 90 days visa-free, just pack your bags and buy a ticket and get on the plane on time...does that mean they just loooooooove estonians...?

132.       Trudy
7887 posts
 16 Jan 2010 Sat 05:41 pm

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

It´s £10 for 3 months tourist visa for Brits.  Cheaper or not-required at all for some other nationalities.

 

Among others Belgium and Danish people don´t need to pay at all, while the Dutch have been charged more since May 2009. A visa costed always 10 Euro and now is 15 Euro. The Turks don´t love us anymore.....  

133.       JanetteO
48 posts
 16 Jan 2010 Sat 05:59 pm

Still cheaper than the 45 Euro us Canadians have to pay Cry

134.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 16 Jan 2010 Sat 06:45 pm

For me its free from now on {#emotions_dlg.nuts}

135.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 16 Jan 2010 Sat 07:05 pm

 

Quoting JanetteO

Well, I have to say, my husband has applied for a study visa, a tourist visa AND a transit visa, and he´s been turned down all 3 times.  How lucky I am to be Canadian, hop on a plane and go pretty much wherever I want with very little difficulty!  My only question is: why is a Canadian charged 60 USD for a visa in Turkey, while everyone else is charged around 20USD?  Not that I´m complaining, just curious ...

 

 Dont worry, if a turkish ppl succeed to get a visa, we pay more than this.

136.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 16 Jan 2010 Sat 07:09 pm

 

Quoting TheJanissary

 

 

 Turkish pp in europe are not living for free. they are working and doing every job that most european ppl do not. if foreign ppl buying resident here, turkish ppl in europe add more to european economy than foreign ppl do in turkey economy. Europe always complain about immigrants but there is a reality that they use them very well.

Governments change, so everything will not go like this forever. I am sure that one day european union will run after turkey for membership.

 

That´s an entirely different thing, you´re talking about people who come to work in a country. We were talking about people who live abroad not because they work there but because they have enough money to support themselves (ie are retired and are looking for a nice place to stay).

 

The way you talk about immigrants is as if they were brought on banana ships. That´s not true! people want to live in the best conditions they can get. If their home country like Turkey or Poland, doesn´t provide them (the same goes for education), people decide to immigrate. And it´s not like they do it just to help their target country, it´s to improve their own material status. Of course, no country would take immigrants if it didn´t need them. And here come immigration regulations and score-based visa systems. The same goes for Turkey - you can´t freely work there, you need a permit. As for their imput into the economy, don´t forget that usually what you contribute is what you get back. So, the situation where you work and use free medical services is an example. Or, you work and your children get free education. I don´t see why you´re saying that by immigrating you contribute more than a person who worked in one country but invests in another - one that they hadn´t given him or her anything before.

 

I don´t see why Europe would want to beg Turkey for membership. What is it that Turkey has and Europe doesn´t? EU is an organisation, if you want to be in it, you apply, learn the rules and either implement them or not. I´ve never heard about EU trying to get a country into its structures, some countries simply don´t want it - like Norway, but EU never begs them to join.

137.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 16 Jan 2010 Sat 07:14 pm

By the way all these conditions and difficulties are for normal passports. for service (Grey) and diplomatic passport (green), visa is not required except some countries (UK, Greece etc).

for every passport Greece wants Visa, it seems they still see us as enemy.

138.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 16 Jan 2010 Sat 11:01 pm

--> Daydreamer, good post!

139.       lemon
1374 posts
 17 Jan 2010 Sun 01:08 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

That´s an entirely different thing, you´re talking about people who come to work in a country. We were talking about people who live abroad not because they work there but because they have enough money to support themselves (ie are retired and are looking for a nice place to stay).

 

The way you talk about immigrants is as if they were brought on banana ships. That´s not true! people want to live in the best conditions they can get. If their home country like Turkey or Poland, doesn´t provide them (the same goes for education), people decide to immigrate. And it´s not like they do it just to help their target country, it´s to improve their own material status. Of course, no country would take immigrants if it didn´t need them. And here come immigration regulations and score-based visa systems. The same goes for Turkey - you can´t freely work there, you need a permit. As for their imput into the economy, don´t forget that usually what you contribute is what you get back. So, the situation where you work and use free medical services is an example. Or, you work and your children get free education. I don´t see why you´re saying that by immigrating you contribute more than a person who worked in one country but invests in another - one that they hadn´t given him or her anything before.

 

I don´t see why Europe would want to beg Turkey for membership. What is it that Turkey has and Europe doesn´t? EU is an organisation, if you want to be in it, you apply, learn the rules and either implement them or not. I´ve never heard about EU trying to get a country into its structures, some countries simply don´t want it - like Norway, but EU never begs them to join.

 

fabulous!!!

 

and i think the same goes with every country. turkey doesnt have a big heart for poorer countries.

for example KZ doesnt easily give visas to the chineese citizens or countries of africa..

 

besides most westerners come to spend money not to earn. and turkeys economy depends on western visitors.

 

140.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 17 Jan 2010 Sun 01:10 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

That´s an entirely different thing, you´re talking about people who come to work in a country. We were talking about people who live abroad not because they work there but because they have enough money to support themselves (ie are retired and are looking for a nice place to stay).

 

The way you talk about immigrants is as if they were brought on banana ships. That´s not true! people want to live in the best conditions they can get. If their home country like Turkey or Poland, doesn´t provide them (the same goes for education), people decide to immigrate. And it´s not like they do it just to help their target country, it´s to improve their own material status. Of course, no country would take immigrants if it didn´t need them. And here come immigration regulations and score-based visa systems. The same goes for Turkey - you can´t freely work there, you need a permit. As for their imput into the economy, don´t forget that usually what you contribute is what you get back. So, the situation where you work and use free medical services is an example. Or, you work and your children get free education. I don´t see why you´re saying that by immigrating you contribute more than a person who worked in one country but invests in another - one that they hadn´t given him or her anything before.

 

I don´t see why Europe would want to beg Turkey for membership. What is it that Turkey has and Europe doesn´t? EU is an organisation, if you want to be in it, you apply, learn the rules and either implement them or not. I´ve never heard about EU trying to get a country into its structures, some countries simply don´t want it - like Norway, but EU never begs them to join.

 

 What do you know about imigrants really?

20-30 years ago, it was german and some other countries, asked for workers from different countries mostly from Turkey. now there is a big turkish community in europe and with time it is increasing. of course some come with illegal ways but mostly they went there with legal ways with the agreement between governments. maybe They still see them as immigrant.

 

Actually what europe has now? We see the economic status of EU, recently we saw Greece , I dont think it will go long. this big community will collapse one day. Turkey is in the middle of most important energy sources, and one of the biggest economy and one of the the fast growing economy in the region. I dont know if europe has a big energy source for long term?  

 

EU rules? I do not think they have rules. Turkey is a candidate for about 50 years, still a candidate, they just want us wait at the door, they will call when they need. there is a reality that they will never accept Turkey even if turkey implement them.

 

But a few weeks ago EU showed their real face and they abolished Visa application to Serbia and some other countries  except Bosna which are not EU member or a candidate. so, what kind of rules do these countries implement? Turkey and Bosna couldnt? why serbia why not Bosnia and Herzegovina (40 % of the population is muslim!).

Lastly, Of course countries are free to apply Visa to some countries BUT application procedure is really a torture and insulting. For me it is strange when u complain about some small procedures about turkey, which can not be compared what turkish ppl meet. 



Edited (1/17/2010) by TheJanissary [the jan]
Edited (1/17/2010) by TheJanissary [the jan]

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