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I hate a belly dance
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90.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Sep 2007 Sat 08:08 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

well, we differ in opinions



Let's agree we disagree.

91.       Badiabdancer74
382 posts
 29 Sep 2007 Sat 10:58 pm

yes, agree to disagree. If anyone thinks MY dancing is overly sexual...then they have some serious issues! Maybe they don't get out much?

92.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 29 Sep 2007 Sat 11:19 pm

Quoting Badiabdancer74:

yes, agree to disagree. If anyone thinks MY dancing is overly sexual...then they have some serious issues! Maybe they don't get out much?


well, at least now you are aware what you may cause to others! as a person with a degree of psychology you sure know/knew it.
well, in some eastern countries people dont go out to enjoy things like striptease, alchohol, dating etc. etc (im one of them). so you may understand that belly dance is like a porno to them (to me certainly it is).

93.       Badiabdancer74
382 posts
 30 Sep 2007 Sun 11:36 pm

Thanks Femme...you were not argumentative and made a good point. I understand how that might look like porno to you.

94.       vineyards
1954 posts
 01 Oct 2007 Mon 12:05 am

I don't know what kind of a super oriental setting some of us live in but I can assure you we have no shortage of entertainment in Istanbul. If you ever drove through Bosphorus Bridge at 3AM after a Friday night, you probably noticed a rush-hour like traffic involving thousands of cars. That traffic is caused by those returning from night clubs, bars and discos. Belly dance is primarily for tourists and old fashioned people. This situation is more or less the same in Izmir, Antalya or any other big city in Turkey.

I don't know what Eastern culture you are talking about. Is the image in your minds about Turkey is that of a desert and a bunch of camels either of which is not present in this country ?

95.       catwoman
8933 posts
 01 Oct 2007 Mon 02:38 am

Quoting vineyards:

I don't know what kind of a super oriental setting some of us live in but I can assure you we have no shortage of entertainment in Istanbul.


Vineyard is right, there's no shortage of real porno where he lives (and not only there)...... it's served regularly with daily news plus saturday specials!

96.       vineyards
1954 posts
 01 Oct 2007 Mon 10:03 am

There seems to be nothing wrong with this childish accusation of catwoman but my message was deleted on account that I wrongfully tried to stop her majesty's regular flaming of Turkish society.

Yes, we are a bunch of pimps here. We are such an evil society we are constantly after sacred female flesh. By the way we never kill time instead we kill one another as part of our culture.

As for you, if you so irresponsibly neglect and ignore the requirements emerging from running a public forum (which has become a political one for all intents and purposes). If you let people harass one another because of their religion, culture, ethnicity and racial roots so recklessly, I am afraid you will have to face some legal consequences that will :

" (3) İçerik veya yer sağlayıcısının yurt dışında bulunması halinde veya içerik veya yer sağlayıcısı yurt içinde bulunsa dahi, içeriği birinci fıkranın (a) bendinin (1), (2) ve (3) numaralı alt bentlerinde yazılı suçları oluşturan yayınlarla ilgili olarak erişimin engellenmesi kararı, doğrudan Başkanlık tarafından verilir. Bu karar, erişim sağlayıcısına bildirilerek gereğinin derhal yerine getirilmesi istenir "

...force you to function responsibly as a public forum.

I am quite serious and look forward to your urgent reply before I take any action.


97.       vineyards
1954 posts
 01 Oct 2007 Mon 12:07 pm

Here is another answer to those prejudiced brains who can't even google before they wrongfully accuse other cultures. After reading this it is up to you to decide where the porn problem actually is:

Excerpts from : http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/poland.htm

Factbook on Global Sexual Exploitation

Poland
-----------------------------------------------------------

Trafficking

At least 200 women, including girls under the age of 16, were trafficked by one Polish man to Germany and the Netherlands between 1993 and 1996. (Warsaw Voice, 1996). ("Trafficking of Women to the European Union: Characterisitics, Trends and Policy Issues," European Conference on Trafficking in Women, (June 1996), IOM, 7 May 1996)

Poland is a destination country for trafficking in Bulgarian women it is a transit country for women from Ukraine, Lithuania and Belarus. At least 3,500 Bulgarian prostituted women are in Poland and more than 1,000 from Ukraine and Belarus (source: Polish Deputy Interior Minister). In 1997, police registered 200 cases of attempted smuggling of women to Western brothels. (Piotr Bazylko, "Poland, Ukraine to fight sex slave industry," Reuters, 16 July 1998)

Policy and Law

In Poland, there are no specific laws governing the smuggling of aliens. (Tass, 1995, "Trafficking and Prostitution: The Growing Exploitation of Migrant Women from Central and Eastern Europe," IOM, May 1995)

The governments of Poland and Ukraine agreed on July 16, 1998, to cooperate in fighting prostitution and sex slave trafficking to the West. "The Mafia has got engaged in [the trafficking of women]. We must take preventive measures together," a Ukrainian Interior Ministry representative commented on the agreement. ("Poland, Ukraine to fight sex slave industry," Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty Newsline, Vol. 2, No. 136 Part II, 17 July 1998)

Prostitution

Case

A child prostitution ring, with a computer list of more than 1000 names, including 100 foreign clients, from Europe and Russia, was uncovered in Szczecin in November 1996. It may be the largest child sex crime in the country's history. (BBC, 8 November 1997)

Pornography

The Polish sex industry held its first legal trade fair in September 1998, attracting businessmen, pornographic film stars, and both male and female participants. Spectators at the Warsaw show will be treated to erotic dancing, mock sado-masochistic performances and naked beauty contests for both sexes. They can also browse around stalls offering sex aids, films and books. ("New law allows Polish porn festival," Reuters, 25 September 1998)

A pornography law prohibits the public display of material likely to offend but permits in private everything but erotica involving children, animals and violence in Poland. The law has been in force since 1 September 1998. Publishers have had to remove nudity from the covers of magazines sold in kiosks and wrap non-transparent foil around books that might be sold openly in other European countries. ("New law allows Polish porn festival," Reuters, 25 September 1998)

Between 300,000 to 400,000 hard-core porn magazines are sold a month in Poland, a country of 39 million people. ("New law allows Polish porn festival," Reuters, 25 September 1998)

98.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:15 pm

vineyards,
theres no porno in polish daily newspapers, if you are trying to reply catwomans post. you still can buy them everywhere in special porno magazines, but definetly not in daily news.

99.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:17 pm

Quoting vineyards:


I don't know what Eastern culture you are talking about. Is the image in your minds about Turkey is that of a desert and a bunch of camels either of which is not present in this country ?


no, i thought theres a jungle in turkey, jungles full of monkeys, pythons, tigers, bears.

100.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:20 pm

Quoting vineyards:

That traffic is caused by those returning from night clubs, bars and discos.


indeed smth to be proud of bravo, vineyards, bravo!
in your attmpts of defence you even contradict yourself so often, that sometimes you dont know what you are talking about.

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