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I hate a belly dance
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:20 pm |
Quoting vineyards: That traffic is caused by those returning from night clubs, bars and discos. |
indeed smth to be proud of bravo, vineyards, bravo!
in your attmpts of defence you even contradict yourself so often, that sometimes you dont know what you are talking about.
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:23 pm |
Hadi sana kolay gelsin Vineyards.
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:23 pm |
People have a right to entertain themselves. They do none of the malicious things in your questionable mind. They are just drinking together, singing and having fun. If that was sinful, New York would burn in hell for the night life it has.
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:28 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: vineyards,
theres no porno in polish daily newspapers, if you are trying to reply catwomans post. you still can buy them everywhere in special porno magazines, but definetly not in daily news. |
Well, porn magazines have never enjoyed a 400k circulation despite Turkey's population is nearly twice as much as Poland's.
Stop, caring about only what you can use against me morose woman.
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:31 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting vineyards:
I don't know what Eastern culture you are talking about. Is the image in your minds about Turkey is that of a desert and a bunch of camels either of which is not present in this country ? |
no, i thought theres a jungle in turkey, jungles full of monkeys, pythons, tigers, bears. |
and one of those monkeys seems to be at large...
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:36 pm |
Quoting vineyards: People have a right to entertain themselves. They do none of the malicious things in your questionable mind. They are just drinking together, singing and having fun. If that was sinful, New York would burn in hell for the night life it has.
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well, NY has already burnt 9/11 thanks to some nice eastern guys who tried to burn down the sins of infidels.
nope, fine, vineayrds fine, just help yourself with some raki and a bit of porno. thats absolutely fine with me. people love entertaining themselves with some striptease. why not? we are free to do whatever we wish to, right?
you disagree with me on women discrimination, but porno and alchohol is OK to you?
no turkish male (except for erdinc) has ever protested against male prostitution in resorts, honor killings, opression of women, but instead they praise themselves as handsome lovers, protectors of traditions and faith.
how do you digest those verses from koran? (oh, you have of course read all the holy books, tho i bet you havent got a clue on them) how do you justify injust attitude towards women? how can you live in the society where the majority of women are humiliated and seen as the object of sex, or daughters as a good party to trade for a marriage?
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:40 pm |
Quoting vineyards: Quoting femme_fatal: vineyards,
theres no porno in polish daily newspapers, if you are trying to reply catwomans post. you still can buy them everywhere in special porno magazines, but definetly not in daily news. |
Well, porn magazines have never enjoyed a 400k circulation despite Turkey's population is nearly twice as much as Poland's.
Stop, caring about only what you can use against me morose woman. |
what does the content of daily newspapers have to do with number of population? are you saying that just because you have bigger population you have more porno? and you are IT specialist? congratulations on your logics!
you stupid immature boy, you insult me when you lack reasonble arguments?
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:43 pm |
Quoting vineyards: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting vineyards:
I don't know what Eastern culture you are talking about. Is the image in your minds about Turkey is that of a desert and a bunch of camels either of which is not present in this country ? |
no, i thought theres a jungle in turkey, jungles full of monkeys, pythons, tigers, bears. |
and one of those monkeys seems to be at large... |
seems like monkeys are more intelligent than some IT self boasting speacialists
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:47 pm |
You are full of misconceptions. As a matter of fact you shouldn't be taken seriously. You ought thank the likes of Trudy who give you unconditional support no matter how weird you go.
Let me quickly remind you what I am and what I am not:
1-) I am an Atheist. All my life I have never believed in anyone of the religions. I don't have to explain this but you force me.
2-) I respect freedom of believing. If someone believes in something he/she is entitled to that. Because the persons(s) in question are grown ups and it is neither your nor my duty to take this right away from that person. He/she is already very satisfied with the life he/she has.
3-) Your narrow mind rules that I must be in favour of honor killings or female oppression. You should actually ask this question to my wife. I am sure she will give you a good laugh. If a woman complains of the oppression she is
subjected to there is the civil code and law enforcement offices waiting to help her out of that oppression. Indeed, a couple of years ago I saw a man trying to physically harm a woman in the street and I personally stopped the guy and made sure that he was arrested by the police.
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:54 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting vineyards: how do you digest those verses from koran? (oh, you have of course read all the holy books, tho i bet you havent got a clue on them) how do you justify injust attitude towards women? how can you live in the society where the majority of women are humiliated and seen as the object of sex, or daughters as a good party to trade for a marriage? |
I don't like those verses for Qoran but then luckily I don't believe in them. What I am claiming is that a civilized person will respect the ways people chose to shape their lives. |
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01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:55 pm |
Quoting vineyards: You are full of misconceptions. As a matter of fact you shouldn't be taken seriously. You ought thank the likes of Trudy who give you unconditional support no matter how weird you go.
Let me quickly remind you what I am and what I am not:
1-) I am an Atheist. All my life I have never believed in anyone of the religions. I don't have to explain this but you force me.
2-) I respect freedom of believing. If someone believes in something he/she is entitled to that. Because the persons(s) in question are grown ups and it is neither your nor my duty to take this right away from that person. He/she is already very satisfied with the life he/she has.
3-) Your narrow mind rules that I must be in favour of honor killings or female oppression. You should actually ask this question to my wife. I am sure she will give you a good laugh. If a woman complains of the oppression she is
subjected to there is the civil code and law enforcement offices waiting to help her out of that oppression. Indeed, a couple of years ago I saw a man trying to physically harm a woman in the street and I personally stopped the guy and made sure that he was arrested by the police.
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you dont need to explain (praising) yourself, your posts stand for what person you are.
i dont know, im just stating the facts that i never ever heard any turkish male (except for erdinc) who STRONGLY/EFFECTIVELY stood against the honor killings, but instead i always see how you all turkish boys stand for traditions that opress women, that shows, vineyards is a very narrow minded.
you are so jealous that trudy supported me, hahaha, but i don think she did it unconditionally, she has at least some brains in comparison to some parrots.
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