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Nationalism soars in Turkey
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 10:43 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: guys, give him a break, pls. you re all jumping on him  |
 thank you
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 10:45 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting walid: yes as you said they don't talk positively on turkey.
it is an historic problem I think that is related with ottomans and islam  |
Well, I have never particular encountered negativity about Turkey in my country anyway  |
it's very encouraging
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 10:45 pm |
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Quoting walid: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting walid: There are many persons who just hate turkey |
Are there? 
Who are these Turkey haters?
To be honest Turkey is rarely talked about (except on this site and in travel brochures... ) |
yes as you said they don't talk positively on turkey.
it is an historic problem I think that is related with ottomans and islam |
so in order not to get classified as a turkish hater you should always speak positive about ottomans and islam?
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 10:46 pm |
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Quoting walid: Quoting femme_fatal: guys, give him a break, pls. you re all jumping on him |
thank you |
are you erlik?
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| 364. |
23 Nov 2007 Fri 10:52 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatalso in order not to get classified as a turkish hater you should always speak positive about ottomans and islam?
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I will say it in another way
from 15'th to 20'th century, turkey was the ennemy to beat, you know.
the problem is that after establishing the republic there are still persons who consider turkey the old ennemy without a logical reason.
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 10:54 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting walid: Quoting femme_fatal: guys, give him a break, pls. you re all jumping on him |
thank you |
are you erlik? |
noooooo :-S
the topic just attracts me so i'm here.
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 11:05 pm |
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Quoting walid:
I will say it in another way
from 15'th to 20'th century, turkey was the ennemy to beat, you know.
the problem is that after establishing the republic there are still persons who consider turkey the old ennemy without a logical reason. |
who are they? who are these people? are they in your imagination?
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| 367. |
23 Nov 2007 Fri 11:17 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal:
who are they? who are these people? are they in your imagination? |
The ones who adopt the so-called genocide, who help the pkk secretly and declare that they don't.
Can you believe that armenia's constitution call a part of eastern turkey as "western armenia"?
the game is clear : let's complete the dissolution of the remains of the ottoman empire.
but they won't see that day
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 11:20 pm |
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23 Nov 2007 Fri 11:33 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Do you think, you know what soviet means? Let me tell you: you don't. It means: "an elected governmental council in a communist country" You are trying to understand the world in line with the narrow vision of your master wolves who made you believe you are serving your country this way. |
Hell yeah , it was elected govermental council with tones of blood and gunpowder. You think you have an idea about everything but you don't know a simple thing that even children knew easily. 7 millions of people murdered during the commanding of Stalin.
Quoting vineyards: What is the virtue of the "free market economy" model or half a dozen more we tried in the past. Did we develop them all by ourselves. Were they not American. what is the big problem here? Is it because we shouldn't have tried to import a regime from Russians? Do you mean we should always support the US because theirs is a good regime for us? . |
What should have we do ? Struggling against individual fortune ? We all work for government ? Allright, give me what have you got, i'll bring communism for you. Only for you.
Quoting vineyards: Nazim defended the communist ideology and served time in prison for his ideals. Anyone reading his poems or plays will understand what a patriot he was. He served time in prison because he was helping his nation wake up from a big sleep. He meant to free them from the colonists exploiting its resources and making the people backward.
In other words he was Don Quichot fighting against wind mills. Is it easy to fight against the wind mills? It is not. If it were we wouldn't have people like you in this century. . |
What a patriot he was. When Atatürk built up a new Republic, he was working against Repuclic. Here one of that traitor's scribble as he was escaping from Türkiye :
A boat shoves off From Trabzon
They'r starting to play last curtain
Bourgeois, mounted on Kemal*
Commander, came down to housekeeper's pocket
They are howling
*Where Kemal that the traitor wrote is Mustafa Kemal ATATÃœRK.
What did this creature for this country ? Let me tell you, a big nought. The people like you are experts to hide the truths.
Quoting vineyards: Did Nazim not make any mistakes? Maybe he did. The capacity for making mistakes stems from the courage to take risks. He was at the forefront of his society in his lifetime therefore he was the first to make both the mistakes and the right things. But of course, you cannot think without labeling things and people. Your way of thinking necessitates satans and enemies to bolster your unity.
Rather than be a subject of a master wolf and be full of hatred as you are, I prefer to be a fan of Nazim who was a master poet.
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How cheap expression . Like all the others do who follow İnönü with ATATÃœRK mask.
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 12:55 am |
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I've said what I wanted to say. Now go nag somebody else.
P.S. Who said I am a communist or a Stalinist. You can't do without tacking your stupid labels on people can you?
Should I ask you about Hitler, Franko or Mussolini on account that their idealogies were not so different from yours?
Did you also investigate how many people those ultra nationalists killed?
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