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Nationalism soars in Turkey
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 05:16 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Quoting portokal: Quoting Erlik Han: Here's my opinion about this thread finally.
NATIONALISM SOARS HERE IN TURKEY.
THIS IS EXTREMELY NORMAL THING.
BUT NOW YOUR ASSES IS ON FIRE. BUT WE DON'T NEED NO WATER LET THE M.......RS BURN. BURN M.......RS BURN.
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cool down adam, else you will end up baked brain  |
BRAIN ?...........WHAT BRAIN ? |
Aha , Somebody started flattering to others. How sweet.
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 06:20 am |
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Quoting CANLI:
You've puzzled me with your posts,to be accurate with your way of thinking,and still !
İ mean,i thought im Egyptian,can anyone say to me same as you did ?!
That im not Egyptian for ANY darn reason?!
Who'd DARE to say that anyway?!
Who DARE to judge if i have a PURE BLOOD or not ?
And who made him,or you the judge,by what authority you can judge who has pure blood or not ?
Or who is Turkish or not ?!
And what is it with PURE BLOOD anyway ?
So,i should be daughter of Pharoh to be pure blood,and i guess you should be son or daughter of the Osmanlı Empire too ?!
Come to think about it..
You are living in England as i understood,married to a Brit, so your kids wont have PURE BLOOD..will they ?
So they wont be neither a Turks,nor a Brits,because either way they wont have PURE Turkish BLOOD nor PURE British BLOOD !
So,where should they live ?
As you believe,only PURE BLOOD people has the right to live in the country
Thats why Kurds dont have the right to be in Türkiye,
So your kids wont have the right to live in Türkiye,nor in England...
So.. ?!
İ dont believe you people !
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For 'these words' I am forced to apologise,I am the said spouse with whom she is married, and my wife speaks from her heart,she has her hang up's about her country as I do in mine but,however I don't agree with what she has said here,and in principle neither does she,she just loves her home country, if there is something wrong with this let me know!
I don't need to quantify her words neither do I shy away from them,I actually agree with her in many ways and with many others here 'passive aggressive' is not the way forward these issues need to be brought forward and not hidden, they should be discussed,expressed,we need a move forward.
'The freedom of speech Act' in the UK is not there for when it suits everyone,it's there for everyone to give their voice to a subject,even if we don't agree with what is being said!It's the receivers response that counts no?If it isn't like this it goes into a 'pidgeon hole''it's only Freedom Of Speech' when it suits,and doesn't offend anyone ever!How is that'Freedom'?As much as I hate them,the BNP and other right wing parties are in essence trying to look after the rights of the milions who were born here before them,and who struggled to make this country great,I'm not talking about The Royal Family,wealthy landowners,i'm talking working class men/women who worked their nuts and bolts off after the war to re-build this country England and the UK,who never took time off,and scoffed at the fact that someone from another country could do a better job than them,this is national pride,not racisim,if you have a better tag to put on this say it!
However this really irritates me(maybe only me,hey i'm using my fredom here)
'I can't say this'in case it offends someone...'I can't say that' because society tells me I can't....'I can't disagree with a minority'because they will complain...or it's not 'PC' This is like i'm only a bit pregnant Doctor,not a lot but i'm nearly there I can only talk freely a little but,if it offends one person abort:?
The sad story is that in the UK today this is how most of the people feel,whether they like it or not(socialisation from birth)(google it)when I say natives I mean 'Whites'(if i'm being rascist let me know?i'll revoke everything i've said,but as far as I know until the last hundred years or so the majority of the population here were white,I have a feeling i'm going to eat these words because most English/British folk will either attack their own in order to show how 'free' superior they are or say nothing in case of being vindicated,because society/the government/the press, told them to be so).
Do natives not feel that they are paying too much tax in the UK?Do they not feel 'put upon' in the UK? I certainly do,when I pay my yearly tax bill, and when I see migrant foreigners cashing in on an infrastructure and superstucture that's already been built/established from our forefathers,through no help from any distant foreigner,after the First and Second World Wars how many of these' foriegn assistants' to our Welfare State'was there?
The problem now continues these immigrants are paying no tax on the whole working in the back of kebab houses(although this establishment is not exclusive,taxi drivers,selling substances they really shouldn't be selling etc....)at the same time you see your Mother/Father retiring on less money after 50 odd years hard work and 'they' earn more working illegally,and people have the balls to say 'you are a racist',bring it on,I have so many websites full of numbers,figures,all in favour,and not in favour of immigrants to the UK I can't count them all,but as we all knew anyway these numbers all speak the truth and they never lie
If you want to call the Police,because i'm not exercising my 'freedom of speech' correctly or inciting racial hatred and all the other crap the British Media want's to churn out,let me know i'll give you my number.I finish with a quote picked up at uni for all you number/statistician fans,
'There are lies,damned lies,and then there are statistics'
Desmond disraeli...
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 09:32 am |
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Az okumus, cok bilmis kardesim,
Adam once Turk, sonra sair, sonra da koministti...Turkceyi en iyi kullanan sairdi......vatanseverdi. Sair bu yahu, sokaklarda adam vuran serseri takimindan degil....Sen onun ugradigi haksizliklara ugrasaydin kopek olurdun.
Sizin suruden kac kisi minik beyinlerinizi birlestirseniz, bir "Kurtulus Savasi Destani" ÿaratabilirsiniz?.
Uyan artik ! Bugun itiraz ettigin siirlerinde yalan mi soyluyordu Nazim? Burjuva bu milletin basina coreklenmedi mi? 400 milyar dolar borc sarmalini basimiza iscilerle koyluler mi sardi? Bagimsizligimizi kim satti dis guclere? Amerikalilara usaklik edip, milletin calisan, gidisata itiraz eden, beyinlerini sokaklarda vuran kim? Bak simdi idare kimlerin eline kaldi..Bu kimlerin buyuk plani idi saniyorsun?
Kimin borusunu caldigini acikca soylemiyorsun, ama tahmin etmek zor degil...Sizi Amerikalilarin, gercek Turk milliyetcilerini yok etmek icin icine sizdigi bir grup olarak dusunuyorum.
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 12:17 pm |
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Members here who talk of BNP party and British white's and "our country" should perhaps stop for just a second and think about Australia, South Africa, East Africa, North America, India, Kong Kong and all the other countries that we colonised.
Did we bother to learn their language? Did we contribute to the society in any way that benefited that country? (Don't force me to go into detail about the extremes and disgusting way we acted in those countries).
In addition, do you not see the irony Mylo and Seker, in complaining about immigrants? I am glad you are enjoy living in England now Seker - I am sure your "case" is different from everyone elses. They always are...
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 01:10 pm |
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You got even Gandhi angry at the end...that should be in the Book of Records...
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 03:23 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Members here who talk of BNP party and British white's and "our country" should perhaps stop for just a second and think about Australia, South Africa, East Africa, North America, India, Kong Kong and all the other countries that we colonised.
Did we bother to learn their language? Did we contribute to the society in any way that benefited that country? (Don't force me to go into detail about the extremes and disgusting way we acted in those countries).
In addition, do you not see the irony Mylo and Seker, in complaining about immigrants? I am glad you are enjoy living in England now Seker - I am sure your "case" is different from everyone elses. They always are... |
Hi AEnigma
This is a GENUINE enquiry NOT an opportunity for anyone to start a new bashing club: with reference to your words above, how long do you propose we take the reprecusions of what our fathers/grandfathers and beyong have done in the so-called British Empire?
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 04:00 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III:
Did we bother to learn their language? Did we contribute to the society in any way that benefited that country? (Don't force me to go into detail about the extremes and disgusting way we acted in those countries).
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colonisers learning the languages of colonised? this is something new to me.
i think those countries have benefited much.
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 04:26 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: i think those countries have benefited much. |
Oh Femme!!! Tell this to aborigines and to native americans - if there are any left to tell!! Does anyone know what the native people of the Caribbean look like? No! Because they have been wiped out and replaced with slaves from Africa!!!
This is getting off topic. The point I was trying to make was yes, I admit, the UK does have an immigration problem. However when people start to say words like "white English", "pure blood" and "the BNP have a point" it makes me sick.
Hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 04:34 pm |
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Indians were busy building Taj Mahal, before they met Brits...
Nowadays, they are civilised. They drink tea with milk. 
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 04:41 pm |
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Quoting Cacık: This is a GENUINE enquiry NOT an opportunity for anyone to start a new bashing club: with reference to your words above, how long do you propose we take the reprecusions of what our fathers/grandfathers and beyong have done in the so-called British Empire?
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I dont think we can be blamed for what our grandfathers did. I dont think Germans can be blamed for what nazis did, I don't think Turkish can be blamed for what Ottomans did either. JUST SO LONG as we learn from it, regret it and move on.
However, I hate the hypocracy of comments about "pure blood" and "our country" - especially when it comes from an immigrant into the UK!!!! Nationalism is vile, but common in every country. Extreme nationalism is a cancer that spreads and causes hatred and war.
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24 Nov 2007 Sat 04:52 pm |
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Turkish muslim nationalists may be interested to read ONE of the many proposals made by your British equivilents. You have a lot in common:-
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1078
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