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14 Nov 2007 Wed 08:03 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Elisabeth:
Nicely said...and I mostly agree. I tell my son the same thing. |
liz  
what if our children give no shit to what we say?  |
What can you do, Femme? Express your disappointment, tell them that you love them and move on. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.!
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14 Nov 2007 Wed 08:04 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Trudy: That piece of paper you get at city hall will not protect you nor will make the pain worse.
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i do understand what you are saying.
and theres no way a piece of paper would protect any kind of marriage. its not the document, its our mind and commitment. its your attitude to the institution of marriage. if you take it serious you always think of those promises you gave to each other in public. and those promises are not empty words. you are totally convinced in what you are involved from now on. many people take that day so romantic, a day of a white dress and lots of flowers with a shampaign.
see, my marriage is not ideal, far from being ideal. there are days when i want to kick him out the doors and just go start the divorce process. never ending ups and downs.
and again those promises shouldnt let (depends on your conscience) you easily have affairs with other men/women.
its easy to get tempted or to judge someone falls. and very difficult to keep up to the values/norms.
as you see its not easy for me to say : NO to sex before marriage, knowing that many people would oppose this statement, calling me old fashioned or judgemental.
it would be far more convinient for me to give up the norms i value and let them vanish, which of course would make my life much easier.
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I won't call you oldfashioned or judgemental because of your own values for yourself. But I will (and even more) if you (or anyone) because of these values call me 'easy' or 'cheap' or if you obstruct me in my personal life.
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14 Nov 2007 Wed 08:13 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SERA_2005: My god! The world has gone mad,we finally agree on something!! I can't believe it. |
Definitely a "dear diary" moment  |
Don't worry i am on it,a note has been made lol 
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14 Nov 2007 Wed 08:14 pm |
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Quoting Trudy:
I won't call you oldfashioned or judgemental because of your own values for yourself. But I will (and even more) if you (or anyone) because of these values call me 'easy' or 'cheap' or if you obstruct me in my personal life. |
 OMG, you are beeeeeeeeed dutch!
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14 Nov 2007 Wed 08:17 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Elisabeth:
Nicely said...and I mostly agree. I tell my son the same thing. |
liz
what if our children give no shit to what we say? |
What can you do, Femme? Express your disappointment, tell them that you love them and move on. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.! |
you are fab!
you say what you say and move on! you my kinda girl! 
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14 Nov 2007 Wed 08:20 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Capoeira: I wonder how many times femme has actually been to Turkey.
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i dont need to fly to the moon in order to state that theres a moon.
i dont need to live in the times of prophets to know the religions.
so if you been there 4 times not 10, it means you would know the things 6 times lesser? |
Just as I thought...you make oversweeping comments and remarks without having any experience.
Your comments do not fit the Turkey that I am living in...
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14 Nov 2007 Wed 08:20 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Trudy:
I won't call you oldfashioned or judgemental because of your own values for yourself. But I will (and even more) if you (or anyone) because of these values call me 'easy' or 'cheap' or if you obstruct me in my personal life. |
OMG, you are beeeeeeeeed dutch! |
But a happy beeeeeeed Dutch!
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14 Nov 2007 Wed 08:28 pm |
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Quoting Capoeira:
Just as I thought...you make oversweeping comments and remarks without having any experience.
Your comments do not fit the Turkey that I am living in...
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precisely which comments, dear?
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14 Nov 2007 Wed 09:33 pm |
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This conversation is amazing, and you wonder why Western Women have such a bad reputation in Turkey? Don't you have any sense of modesty or discretion?
Nobody wants used merchandise, nobody. Why do you think billions are spent to be the FIRST on the moon, the First to XXX? Men are famous for being the first to mount Mt Everest. No less would they like to be the second, third, fourth or whatever with their wife.
In the West there is a epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases. Where do you think they come from?
If two people are committed to each other they will learn to work together. Your not talking about buying a new pair of shoes, you are talking about making a committed relationship between human beings.
You certainly are reinforcing the present opinion of Western Women.
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14 Nov 2007 Wed 09:35 pm |
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Quoting alameda: This conversation is amazing, and you wonder why Western Women have such a bad reputation in Turkey? Don't you have any sense of modesty or discretion?
Nobody wants used merchandise, nobody. Why do you think billions are spent to be the FIRST on the moon, the First to XXX? Men are famous for being the first to mount Mt Everest. No less would they like to be the second, third, fourth or whatever with their wife.
In the West there is a epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases. Where do you think they come from?
If two people are committed to each other they will learn to work together. Your not talking about buying a new pair of shoes, you are talking about making a committed relationship between human beings.
You certainly are reinforcing the present opinion of Western Women. |
Ooffff, Saint Alameda is orating! 
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