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15 Nov 2007 Thu 10:58 am |
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Turkish lady is so wonderful I've met her almost 2 years ago, in love and we got married on May this year. So loyal and very loving. She gives her heart fully and life become so beautiful. She lived in my country now. I've met her friends while I was in Turkey. They all are nice too and very supportive to us. I'm not a western guy but see? it's not about exploiting but love...
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15 Nov 2007 Thu 11:57 am |
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Quoting alameda:
I didn't say women are merchandise. But, I'm sure you know what I was getting at. After all you are a smart lady. My point was, that which is second, third or forth hand is not as desirable to most, as being the first to enjoy something....first love, anyone want to be the 10th love?
Widows and divorcees have a special status....and women who just fool around are in their own category.
Now if you like it or not, women and men are quite different than men. Women are more fragile. Their reproductive system is more easily damaged by infections.
Things like blocked tubes can happen from an infection. Many women get fibroid tumors and ovarian cysts....these can cause problems. Then the female reproductive system is more "friendly" to bacteria and virus growth than the male system. Women are more susceptible to HIV. These are simple scientific facts.
Add to that the fact that all women have a clock. The best time to have healthy children is when your eggs are fresh and your body is flexible, and you have the energy to keep up with young children.
If you want to prevent pregnancy, you can use pills which disrupt your own hormonal system (and who knows what the long range results of that will be.) You can have a device implanted....there have been a lot of problems there.
I certainly don't advocate for men being promiscuous, but they can get away with it with less damage more easily than women.
My point is, sex is not a toy to be played with. It is something to take seriously. I think all women should value and respect themselves and demand respect from their partners.
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"they can get away with it with less damage..!!!!!!!"
the only assholes that are spreading diseases is man,cause dear alameda,when his next future wife is waiting him and keeping her virginity,he is geting laid around and coming with possible diseases
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15 Nov 2007 Thu 12:15 pm |
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to understand or to comprehend realities of different cultures look likes to fix a very hard puzzle,so thats need a big patiance for find to true main pieces of this puzzle for can fix it.And when we try to fix in hurry i think never possible to put true pieces.Yes critism is very nice to find trues but never with judging or with prejudicies.someting can be very silly for us while the same thing very meaningfull or valuable for other one..
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15 Nov 2007 Thu 02:42 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: to understand or to comprehend realities of different cultures look likes to fix a very hard puzzle,so thats need a big patiance for find to true main pieces of this puzzle for can fix it.And when we try to fix in hurry i think never possible to put true pieces.Yes critism is very nice to find trues but never with judging or with prejudicies.someting can be very silly for us while the same thing very meaningfull or valuable for other one.. |
I agree with this comment with SOME aspects of different cultures MrX67, but dont ever ask me to tolerate a culture that denies half of the population basic rights, freedom of speech and equality.
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15 Nov 2007 Thu 02:44 pm |
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Quoting alameda:
Nobody wants used merchandise, nobody. Why do you think billions are spent to be the FIRST on the moon, the First to XXX? Men are famous for being the first to mount Mt Everest. No less would they like to be the second, third, fourth or whatever with their wife.
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Not that it is in my intention to reinforce or confirm any opinion about women, westerners or easterners. but, well, in history you can find examples of territories that were passed by several migrational groups. New-comers tried to chase the others that were already settled in. Usually beauty and glitter (gold, coal, oil, proper fields for farming) were the main attraction and reason to conquer. And it brought along fame, envy, wealthiness, all that it takes to be a proper conqueror. Huge fiesta's were organised to celebrate. The hungries were feed, stolen gold was showed to dizzy people with all the glittering. 
I think this adds a plus-value to your theory upon the untouched land.
About the used merchandise :-S NO COMMENT!!!
But next time when you go shopping, you might want to check out the expiry dates, too. 
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15 Nov 2007 Thu 03:17 pm |
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catwoman said "Alameda, you are such a depressing person."
Well I'm sorry you feel that way. I guess you are lucky you don't have to live with me. I didn't make the rules, but I do recognize them. Ignorance will not protect you.
catwoman said "I very much appreciate your sensitivity and admire your patience and caring that you seem to have, but it strikes me that on some issues you have such a black and white thinking."
Actually, that is not true. I see many shades.
catwoman said "Seems like everything that gives women freedom - reproductive or financial - you are totally negative about - there is absolutely nothing positive about it, while you see nothing wrong with the way women are treated in Turkey for example (or anything in Turkey for that matter).
You are changing the discussion here. My post was regarding promiscuity. Start another thread if you want to discuss those matters.
You are free to be promiscuous as you like, I'm just pointing out problems with that type of activity, and reacting to posts here that seemed to be boasting and advocating promiscuity and putting down those who have other values.
Where did I ever say anything that would take financial freedom away from women?...but that is another discussion. It's not related to this one. If you want to start another thread on that, I'll be happy to jump in.
catwoman said "You certainly see NO benefits from contraceptives or having children at older age or from women being able to have sex before marriage as much as man can without social condemnation? "
Where did you get that idea? Of course, contraceptives can be helpful, but there are also drawbacks. I didn't make them, but I recognize that fact there are problems.
birth control
catwoman said "As far as the energy to raise kids - a woman should only worry about 50% of this problem!"
However, would you argue that your energy level at the age of 40 is the same as it is in your 20s?
catwoman said "By the way - I NEVER heard that female reproductive organs can be easier damaged by infections then male organs. It is true that women get STDs and HIV more then men and that's because if a man is HIV+, he will transfer his fluids directly into the woman's body if they have an intercourse. While the same isn't true if the situation is reverse."
Well, you contradicted yourself there.
catwoman said "That's why women should DEMAND that their partners always wear protection. Yes, these are things that women are at more risk for, but they should be aware of that and be able to make their conscious decisions whether they want to have sex before marriage or not. I think this is about basic human equal rights."
Of course catwoman, but they should also be aware of the risks involved with their choices. I'm not for promiscuity in either male or female. Condoms sometimes fail. They are not 100% foolproof.
What is the issue you have with the fact that sex is not a game? It is not a toy to be recklessly played with?
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15 Nov 2007 Thu 03:24 pm |
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Quoting alameda: You are changing the discussion here. My post was regarding promiscuity. Start another thread if you want to discuss those matters.
You are free to be promiscuous as you like, I'm just pointing out problems with that type of activity, and reacting to posts here that seemed to be boasting and advocating promiscuity and putting down those who have other values.
What is the issue you have with the fact that sex is not a game? It is not a toy to be recklessly played with? |
Alameda please show me the posts which "seemed to be boasting and advocating promiscuity" 
It is YOU who has changed the subject. As far as I am aware we were talking about being a virgin before marriage. Having sex before marriage (if you actually choose to marry) does not equate with promiscuity.
Do you have any idea how many married people have affairs? Marriage does not stop promiscuity.
Sex without love with multiple partners is promiscuous. Sex within a mutually loving relationship is not.
PLEASE NOTE I (UNLIKE YOU) AM TALKING ABOUT BOTH SEXES!!!
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15 Nov 2007 Thu 03:31 pm |
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Alameda - I was replying to this. Is that OK with you? You certainly don't need to tell me about all your pseudo religious and cult groups that you have in the states. We are well aware of them!
Quoting AlphaF: A good idea regarding relative HAPPINESS and FULLFILMENT INDEX of US and say, SAUDI women can be figured out simply by comparing.
1. percentage of female alcholics between the the two nations.
2. Percentage of female drug users between the two countries,
3. Percentage of unwed mothers between the two countries,
4. Percentage of female suicides between the two countries.
5. Percentage of females looking for love and affection elsewhere, between the two countries, |
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15 Nov 2007 Thu 03:35 pm |
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hmmm... seems like talking about girls and men are having different reactions... compare posts in turkish men, and turkish girls.... 
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15 Nov 2007 Thu 03:41 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Alameda - I was replying to this. Is that OK with you? You certainly don't need to tell me about all your pseudo religious and cult groups that you have in the states. We are well aware of them!
Quoting AlphaF: A good idea regarding relative HAPPINESS and FULLFILMENT INDEX of US and say, SAUDI women can be figured out simply by comparing.
1. percentage of female alcholics between the the two nations.
2. Percentage of female drug users between the two countries,
3. Percentage of unwed mothers between the two countries,
4. Percentage of female suicides between the two countries.
5. Percentage of females looking for love and affection elsewhere, between the two countries, |
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Of course! Don't you have then where you are? Saudi is certainly a special case.... 
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