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420.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 02:25 pm

In Holland, a new pill has come on the market, to protect Muslim women who are not virgin anymore. The pill can be received from a doctor, for free, and abotu half an hour till an hour after taking it, the women will start to bleed a red liquid that looks like blood. She bleeds, thus she is a virgin.

However, not all virgins bleed! Maybe in the times where this idea stems from, women bled. The chance of a woman bleeding becomes higher when she is nervous (the marriage-night, in which she will be so nervous bec the family next day will know they have done it and wonder if she bled or not), or unwilling (a pre-arranged marriage, not mentally ready, scared of sex as it was labelled as dirty and a taboo through all her life, and suddenly she has to take part of it).

The pill might be a good sollution to protect the women, but I think it will only keep the misconception of every virgin bleeding, going.

421.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 02:28 pm

Quoting yilgun-7:

Culture and principles lead the community.Law is law.



Ofcourse it does, and from a certain point of view there is nothign wrong with that. But times changes, and so should the principles then.

422.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 07:55 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:


Actually Alameda you DID label women here with those names. Please remember that they are only "unwise" by your personal religious or cultural standards.

YET AGAIN you are confusing people who choose not to marry with promiscuity. I dont believe anyone was advocating promiscuity and I agree that the rise in STDs is alarming. You should really try not to judge and assume. If you disagree with sex outside marriage, then that is your opinion, but you have no right to make disparaging comments about people who may not agree with you.



Argh!!! I went over all 310 of my previous posts and did not find any where I labeled women here with those names. I am not calling them "bad" people, but I question the wisdom of some of their actions. If I did, I apologize as my last intention is to hurt anyone. If I don't agree, it is my right to speak up. It could be you are reading between the lines and filling things in. It appears to me we are bickering over semantics.

marriage

I believe everyone wants a life-mate or soul-mate. Someone who will be committed to be there for them during their lifetime. In order to get that and keep it there are ways that work and ones that are less likely to work.

Being loved and loving are the most basic needs of human beings. What does life mean if only our physical needs are fulfilled, but emotionally and spiritually we are empty? How we go about that in many ways defines us and our lives. Many are afraid to love, and feel unworthy of being loved. I don't believe are many lives are enriched by drifting from affair to affair.

All relationships go through honeymoon periods, and less happy times. Being committed to stick to it through these times requires commitment. It is not easy, it requires commitment. Ask couples who have been together for very long times and you will find it was not one long honeymoon.

Regarding your comment on my understanding of history. I am well aware of different periods of less than strict standards. However the big change was when antibiotics and birth control methods became more reliable. At that time many of the perceived reasons for casual sex were removed.

The danger of unwanted pregnancy was a very big deterrent. It's always the woman who ends up "holding the bag"....so to speak. My point is that there are more subtle reasons for not being casual about sex.

I was unaware of Victoria's toys though. Interesting....

423.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 08:19 pm

poor muslim girls that are forced to have that disgusting sex!
what a hypocrasy! girls are treated like a good from the supermarket, new untouched unused good!

why isnt the other way, men, virgin men? any girl who slept with a virgin man, must cut a little piece of their organ as a sign of the virginity loss, so the next woman would know that hesnt virgin anymore.

awww, then alameda would protest against this barbarian act!

424.       lada
15 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 09:02 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

I dont mind ladies having premarital sex either....so long as they do not expect me to marry them afterwards..


i am quite sure that you ll find a perfect virgin for yourself,but himen is not the only thing that you should chek it out
Alpha,are you virgin,if it is not to unpolite to ask.
if you are,then congratulations,i hope honestley that you ll find a virgin.
if you are not,then you are such a smooth face

425.       lada
15 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 09:02 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

I dont mind ladies having premarital sex either....so long as they do not expect me to marry them afterwards..


i am quite sure that you ll find a perfect virgin for yourself,but himen is not the only thing that you should chek it out
Alpha,are you virgin,if it is not to unpolite to ask.
if you are,then congratulations,i hope honestley that you ll find a virgin.
if you are not,then you are such a smooth face

426.       lada
15 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 09:06 pm

Quoting hanan:

Quoting yilgun-7:

According to Turkish traditional community culture,
“Virginity" is definitely precondition for marriage in Türkiye...
What about British girls?



it is not only in turkiye it is in any islamic culture coz the holy quran says so .


and not only in quaran,also in bible and torah

427.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 09:11 pm

I noticed a cheeky question asking me if I, myself, was a virgin till I was married.

The question is irrelevant, since I had every respect to ladies who would deny me their hand in marriage, considering my sinfull past...I never considered it a crime if a lady wanted a virgin lover or a husband.

428.       portokal
2516 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 09:15 pm

Quoting lada:

Quoting hanan:

Quoting yilgun-7:

According to Turkish traditional community culture,
“Virginity' is definitely precondition for marriage in Türkiye...
What about British girls?



it is not only in turkiye it is in any islamic culture coz the holy quran says so .


and not only in quaran,also in bible and torah



Torah is the Old Testament.
And jews were matrilineal society.

429.       portokal
2516 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 09:22 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

I never considered it a crime if a lady wanted a virgin lover or a husband.



Well... in these days, in some places this is but a peculiar weirdo desire. Other places the reverse of your desired situation is materialised in a rigide and unfair sets of rules imposed to women.
That is why your axioms are angering us a little.)))))

430.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 18 Nov 2007 Sun 09:25 pm

I think I am winning the discussion...the problem here is not religious, it is philosophical....

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