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130.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 21 Dec 2007 Fri 02:13 pm

israeli war crimes/Geneva conventions
Article 54.-Protection of objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population
1. Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare is prohibited.
Israel has been blocking plestinian territories for a long time.
(red cross)
(power cuts to gazza)
(what was hapening 7 years ago )

2. It is prohibited to attack, destroy, remove or render useless objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population, such as foodstuffs, agricultural areas for the production of foodstuffs, crops, livestock, drinking water installations and supplies and irrigation works, for the specific purpose of denying them for their sustenance value to the civilian population or to the adverse Party, whatever the motive, whether in order to starve out civilians, to cause them to move away, or for any other motive.
(israel destroys power plant in gazza)
( destroying the Palestinian dream of a state)
(Amnesty International has accused Israel of committing war crimes by deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure in Lebanon.)
The human rights group (Amnesty International) says attacks on homes, bridges, roads and water and fuel plants were an "integral part" of Israel's strategy in the recent war.

more link is necessary to prove that israel is in breach of this article?

Article 51.-Protection of the civilian population
2. The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.
Gaza killings

(Israeli army 'crimes')

(killing a 13-year-old girl)
(10 Palestinians, including a number of children)
you might get 100's of links actually to show that Israel is clearly violating this article.
What Israeli army is doing does not look like the act of state more like the act of a gang!!
etc etc etc
..............

If all above do not constitute to war crimes and "crime against humanity" what else do we need?
What is "crime against humanity" anyway: definition is "crime against humanity is an act of persecution or any large scale atrocities against a body of people, and is the highest level of criminal offense" apparently.
(this is the link Amnesty International accusing israel commiting crime against humanity)
Typical example of crime against humanity is what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jewish People. And U.N. Human Rights Commission determined that what israel was doing is crime against humanity.
It is exactly what Hitler and Nazis did the jews.

131.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Dec 2007 Fri 03:04 pm

Quite amazing that laws only apply to the weak. It's abhorrent.

132.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 23 Dec 2007 Sun 04:30 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting femme_fatal:


everything was legal.
the land belonged to jews before, they didnt fall down from the moon.


'If I was an Arab leader I would never make [peace] with
Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country.'
David Ben Gurion


more context pls.


this?



thank you for the source

I don't understand your optimism. Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So, it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipe us out.

its better in the context now.
and ben gurion is right.
if he were an arab he would think like an arab, to whom jews would always be the occupiers.

if i were a jew, i would definitely have much tougher policy with arabs. i would not dance like jews dance under the music of UN.
its impossible to have regulated and civilised relationships with arabs. the history shows it.

133.       ciko
784 posts
 23 Dec 2007 Sun 04:43 pm

Femme you are a provocateur.i wonder if you ever read history about palestine. i cant believe you are so little brained that you say you would definetely be much tougher with arabs if you were a jewish. and i cant imagine anything tougher than killing civilians and children.. shame on you femme..

134.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 23 Dec 2007 Sun 05:02 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

israeli war crimes/Geneva conventions
Article 54.-Protection of objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population
1. Starvation of civilians as a method of warfare is prohibited.
Israel has been blocking plestinian territories for a long time.
(red cross)
(power cuts to gazza)
(what was hapening 7 years ago )

2. It is prohibited to attack, destroy, remove or render useless objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population, such as foodstuffs, agricultural areas for the production of foodstuffs, crops, livestock, drinking water installations and supplies and irrigation works, for the specific purpose of denying them for their sustenance value to the civilian population or to the adverse Party, whatever the motive, whether in order to starve out civilians, to cause them to move away, or for any other motive.
(israel destroys power plant in gazza)
( destroying the Palestinian dream of a state)
(Amnesty International has accused Israel of committing war crimes by deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure in Lebanon.)
The human rights group (Amnesty International) says attacks on homes, bridges, roads and water and fuel plants were an "integral part" of Israel's strategy in the recent war.

more link is necessary to prove that israel is in breach of this article?

Article 51.-Protection of the civilian population
2. The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.
Gaza killings

(Israeli army 'crimes')

(killing a 13-year-old girl)
(10 Palestinians, including a number of children)
you might get 100's of links actually to show that Israel is clearly violating this article.
What Israeli army is doing does not look like the act of state more like the act of a gang!!
etc etc etc
..............

If all above do not constitute to war crimes and "crime against humanity" what else do we need?
What is "crime against humanity" anyway: definition is "crime against humanity is an act of persecution or any large scale atrocities against a body of people, and is the highest level of criminal offense" apparently.
(this is the link Amnesty International accusing israel commiting crime against humanity)
Typical example of crime against humanity is what Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jewish People. And U.N. Human Rights Commission determined that what israel was doing is crime against humanity.
It is exactly what Hitler and Nazis did the jews.


more than a half of them are just pallywood.

135.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 23 Dec 2007 Sun 05:04 pm

Quoting ciko:

Femme you are a provocateur.i wonder if you ever read history about palestine. i cant believe you are so little brained that you say you would definetely be much tougher with arabs if you were a jewish. and i cant imagine anything tougher than killing civilians and children.. shame on you femme..


ciko,
im afraid you are an ignorant.

136.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 23 Dec 2007 Sun 05:06 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting femme_fatal:


aaaaaaaaaa!
welcome to the real world, alameda, false information spreader! PALLYWOOD victim!



You know I really don't have time to devote to this now, but you asked for links, here have a couple.

Generous Offer

Separation Barrier



thats the democracy in israel!
they have malicious political groups (like gush shalom) who are not afraid to speak against their own gov!
while its not so in palestine!

137.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 23 Dec 2007 Sun 05:23 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting ciko:

Femme you are a provocateur.i wonder if you ever read history about palestine. i cant believe you are so little brained that you say you would definetely be much tougher with arabs if you were a jewish. and i cant imagine anything tougher than killing civilians and children.. shame on you femme..


ciko,
im afraid you are an ignorant.



Ciko how could you dare to retort to femme_fatal. Dont you know that femme is the best and dont care the rest. lol She knows everything. She is expert on all topics. And the others must be ignorants. She is like an encyclopedia so she can comment on everything. But you cant. Cos you can just be a parrot but no more. If you wanna say that you know something on that topic, do not try. If she says that you are an ignorant, you are. She is always right, the others always wrong. And if you are a muslim, poor you . That means you have no right to speak.
Do not try to speak again, okay? lol lol lol

138.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 23 Dec 2007 Sun 05:26 pm

Quoting Umut_Umut:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting ciko:

Femme you are a provocateur.i wonder if you ever read history about palestine. i cant believe you are so little brained that you say you would definetely be much tougher with arabs if you were a jewish. and i cant imagine anything tougher than killing civilians and children.. shame on you femme..


ciko,
im afraid you are an ignorant.



Ciko how could you dare to retort to femme_fatal. Dont you know that femme is the best and dont care the rest. lol She knows everything. She is expert on all topics. And the others must be ignorants. She is like an encyclopedia so she can comment on everything. But you cant. Cos you can just be a parrot but no more. If you wanna say that you know something on that topic, do not try. If she says that you are an ignorant, you are. She is always right, the others always wrong. And if you are a muslim, poor you . That means you have no right to speak.
Do not try to speak again, okay? lol lol lol


umut
your personal attack doesnt impress me.
have anything to speak about the subject?
nope?

139.       Umut_Umut
485 posts
 23 Dec 2007 Sun 05:29 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting Umut_Umut:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting ciko:

Femme you are a provocateur.i wonder if you ever read history about palestine. i cant believe you are so little brained that you say you would definetely be much tougher with arabs if you were a jewish. and i cant imagine anything tougher than killing civilians and children.. shame on you femme..


ciko,
im afraid you are an ignorant.



Ciko how could you dare to retort to femme_fatal. Dont you know that femme is the best and dont care the rest. lol She knows everything. She is expert on all topics. And the others must be ignorants. She is like an encyclopedia so she can comment on everything. But you cant. Cos you can just be a parrot but no more. If you wanna say that you know something on that topic, do not try. If she says that you are an ignorant, you are. She is always right, the others always wrong. And if you are a muslim, poor you . That means you have no right to speak.
Do not try to speak again, okay? lol lol lol


umut
your personal attack doesnt impress me.
have anything to speak about the subject?
nope?



Actually it wasnt for you. It was for Ciko. I dont care to impress you.

Haha are you sure that you are speaking on the subject? lol
Subjects title is Turkish Army and look what you are speaking about. So dont care about the subject.

140.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 23 Dec 2007 Sun 05:32 pm

Quoting Umut_Umut:



Actually it wasnt for you. It was for Ciko. I dont care to impress you.

Haha are you sure that you are speaking on the subject? lol
Subjects title is Turkish Army and look what you are speaking about. So dont care about the subject.


umut,
what was your contribution to the subject?
am i the only person offtopic? or you see only FF going offtopic?
lol
a selective brainwashed parrot! lol

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