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abortion is not a forbidden topic, is it...?
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15 Jan 2008 Tue 10:31 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting azade: I agree with you Aenigma but I'm asking because in my head forbidding abortion by law is a restriction and thus violation of a woman's rights. |
YOU CALLED ME CATWOMAN!!!     |
Off! Why do you have to be so quick you!!
I scrolled down the page pretty quickly so when i stopped scrolling I didn't see the username and i thought you were catowman haha 
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15 Jan 2008 Tue 10:32 pm |
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Quoting azade: I scrolled down the page pretty quickly so when i stopped scrolling I didn't see the username and i thought you were catowman haha |
Forgiven  Ama...I think you will find Catwoman has a very different opinion on this to me
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15 Jan 2008 Tue 10:39 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting azade: I'm really surprised to hear some of these opinions because I thought that most people were pro-choice nowadays. But this is interesting. Women who are pro-life, as it is called, are very brave in my eyes but don't you think that every woman should have the choice to decide what is best in her specific case? This question is mainly directed to those of you who feel very strongly about (women's) rights and conditions in general. |
Since some of us are Pro-Life and several questions were posed to us pertaining to rape etc.. I would like to know from people who are Pro-Choice, when is it accceptable to a have an abortion and how many times? Should a women be allowed to abort a number of times or should there be a limit? |
I don't know what pro-choices in general think but this is my opinion.
I would certaintly hope that no woman would need it more than once (or never!!) in her life but I also think that setting a limit like once, twice or whatever it would be is deprivation of rights. I'd like to believe that fellow women don't use it as a form of birth control but of course there has got to be some bad seeds as well who are irresponsible and careless about their bodies (maybe we should sterilize them  ). Abortion should only be used as last resort and obviously women who don't want to have children use protection so the risk of even getting pregnant and having to make that awful decision is minimal.
If anyone has any statistics on how many percent of woman has had an abortion I'd like to see it.
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15 Jan 2008 Tue 11:10 pm |
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If we all decide that abortion should be/stay legal, there is no point in setting a limit. It then means that we agree it is an option worth using sometimes, and in that case a limit cant be set..
The reason I would never want an abortion is the harm it could bring to your body, that it could even take away your ability to ever get children. But that is just a personal thought on the matter.
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:17 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SERA_2005: I don't agree with that,all i was saying is it doesnt have to be as radicalised as catwoman seems to think it is.She talks about it as if men are going around being totally sexist and the world is set up to be against women.Well i'm sorry but that just isnt the case! Your only weak and voulnerable if you make yourself 'feel' like the victim.No one has to be pathetic if they don't want to be. |
But the fact is, even if you just consider the west, women ARE still victims! You think it is fair that we get paid less? |
No of course i don't think its fair that women are paid less but i do think times are changing and they have been doing for quite some years now.women are catching up to men and i totally agree that if two people are doing the same job they should receive the same wage regardless of sex,thats a given. What i resent is the man bashing that has very little place in reality.Of course i accept that there are some employers etc which are sexist and that won't change, just as there are some employers that will always be racist. In no way is this acceptable however there will always be one or two people that are like that. This does not mean that women should be in a constant state of paranoia looking for sexism where it doesnt exist.
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:18 am |
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Quoting SERA_2005: This does not mean that women should be in a constant state of paranoia looking for sexism where it doesnt exist. |
I completely agree. Nor should they be in a constant state of complacency and ignoring sexism where it DOES exist
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:21 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting SERA_2005: This does not mean that women should be in a constant state of paranoia looking for sexism where it doesnt exist. |
I completely agree. Nor should they be in a constant state of complacency and ignoring sexism where it DOES exist |
we are in agreement it seems,i am going to lie down now because of the shock.
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 05:13 am |
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Quoting Elisabeth:
I personally don't feel this is a womans rights issue so much as a human rights issue. |
Aren't women humans? If human rights is the basis of this belief are you saying the unborn child is more human than the woman who is carrying it? 
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 05:32 am |
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While I respect the views of the pro-life side of this debate, my belief is that abortion is a personal and private matter. A choice that ultimately, only the woman can make. As I think everyone has stated, abortion is NOT a form of birth control, however, a woman’s right to decide what is right for her over-rides a fetus’ right to be born.
What is proposed for a woman who has an abortion in a world where abortion is outlawed? Jail time? Forced tubal ligation? Death by stoning? And what of the man who father’s untold numbers of children with these women? Should they be forced to have vasectomies or chemical castration?
I think one major distinction between pro-life and pro-choice groups is that the many pro-lifers seem to want to force all women to conform to THEIR beliefs and do not seem to respect the fact that not every holds those same beliefs.
Has anyone here ever heard of the pro-choice movement trying to pass laws that force women to have abortions?
Most disturbing to me is seeing some of the tactics pro-lifers have used. They can be abhorrent! I’m sure we have all seen the pictures or new accounts of some very ardent pro-lifers harassing young women who are trying to enter abortion clinics. And how many doctor’s and nurses who work in these clinics have been murdered in the name of the pro-life movement? The ultimate hypocrisy!!
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 01:16 pm |
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Here are some questions to those interested:
- Do you think the people around the world live according to the teachings of the prophets of their particular religions?
- Have been able to cure rape, incest, sexual discrimination?
- Are we affluent enough to have as many children as we want?
- What do you think about the starving people in Africa.
If you are unable to answer above question with a "Yes" then you are not entitled to pushing your bright ideas about how women should give birth to a child everytime they become pregnant.
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16 Jan 2008 Wed 02:25 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: If you are unable to answer above question with a "Yes" then you are not entitled to pushing your bright ideas about how women should give birth to a child everytime they become pregnant.
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Very good point.
+10000 
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