Hi all , I hope you can clarify this to me because I still cant understand 100% what is the MAIN difference between these conditional tenses ! or can they mean the same in some cases?
For example ,
" (Eger )Dilek eve gelse , beraber disariya gidebiliriz "
" (Eger )Dilek eve gelIRSE , beraber disariya gidebiliriz "

And are these sentences correct? In the case they are, could they have the same meaning?

" Eger benimle konusmasan , asla anlamayacaksin ".
" Eger benimle konusmaZsan, asla anlamayacaksin ".

Simdiden tesekkurler!
Dilara.

Hi Dilara,

In my attempt to distinguish between the two, Omer explained the following:
1. " (Eger )Dilek eve gelse , beraber disariya gidebiliriz "
2. " (Eger )Dilek eve gelIRSE , beraber disariya gidebiliriz "

In the first case, the speaker is IMAGINING/dreaming- "when she comes to my home we might....."

In the second case, the speaker has a specific PLAN- "when she comes to my home we will do...., then...."

We have been working on part 2 of your question and will reply soon

Christine




Hi all , I hope you can clarify this to me because I still cant understand 100% what is the MAIN difference between these conditional tenses ! or can they mean the same in some cases?
For example ,
" (Eger )Dilek eve gelse , beraber disariya gidebiliriz "
" (Eger )Dilek eve gelIRSE , beraber disariya gidebiliriz "

And are these sentences correct? In the case they are, could they have the same meaning?

" Eger benimle konusmasan , asla anlamayacaksin ".
" Eger benimle konusmaZsan, asla anlamayacaksin ".

Simdiden tesekkurler!
Dilara.

Thank you so much both of you Inankur and Christine for your help!
Yes, sometimes I confuse "dilek" -wish- with turkish conditionals and you see, one letter can create a huge difference in meaning.
Thank you so much to Omer as well, ohh he's trying to teach you his native language , sounds sweet
Sana da tesekkur ederim Omer.
Dilara.

Yes. Christine's explanation matches the way I know it. Gelse is more hypothetically, there is no such case. Gelirse carries a condition in it for the second part of the sentence to happen.

Thanks for the sweet words Dilara, we are trying

To answer your second question, Omer gave me a scenario.

Imagine two people are having a terrible disagreement.

In the first scenario, the man is very troubled, and receives messages on his answering machine from his Turkish girlfriend asking him to please call her. He phones, and they mend their problems through conversation. He cautions her for the future: Honey, "if you don't speak to me you can't understand" (sentence 1)

HOWEVER:

In the second scenario, the man is so angry he refuses to answer the telephone, and his Turkish girlfriend leaves several messages. In the final message to the machine she says (directively) ' if you don't speak to me, you can't understand me'


(sentence 1)" Eger benimle konusmasan , asla anlamayacaksin ".



(sentence 2) " Eger benimle konusmaZsan, asla anlamayacaksin ".

I hope we are correct and that this is helpful!
Christine and Omer

Once again Thank you so much for your comments Deli_Kizin and for your examples Christine - and Omer.
I tried to portray myself in both situations to get it and I think I did so it was practical and useful.
Once again thanks all of you !!
Çalismaya devam edelim
Dilara

You are learning so fast Dilara! Aferin sana