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Military service announcement??
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 03:32 am |
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Quoting azade: Quoting SuiGeneris:
Though i didnt do the military service... I have lived there 2 years, when the region was very hot between 94-96... it was even worse than serving military service... to look at the door and waiting for father... and thinking what will happen while walking in the streets... anyway it passed... i am glad i lived there... that will pass aswell... |
How do you think that's worse? Think about being IN the army at that time, wearing the hot clothes, boots, hat, heavy gear, perhaps waiting in the sun for hours or running around a track all day. With the complete outfit. |
You just have to live! thats all i can say!
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 03:34 am |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting azade: Quoting SuiGeneris:
Though i didnt do the military service... I have lived there 2 years, when the region was very hot between 94-96... it was even worse than serving military service... to look at the door and waiting for father... and thinking what will happen while walking in the streets... anyway it passed... i am glad i lived there... that will pass aswell... |
How do you think that's worse? Think about being IN the army at that time, wearing the hot clothes, boots, hat, heavy gear, perhaps waiting in the sun for hours or running around a track all day. With the complete outfit. |
You just have to live! thats all i can say! |
Yes of course once you are in the army you have to go through with it, mind you I was only following your trail of thought.
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 03:38 am |
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Quoting azade:
Three months does hardly make you a pro in the army where minor mistakes can be the difference between life and death. Even though you are trained in something specific does not mean that's the post you will be assigned to for the 12 months remaining.
Well just because none your friends lost their lives in the army doesn't mean loads of others haven't. I'm sure you will know if you remember what happened in October. Being the most recent "big" event. Soldiers also commit suicide but that's not talked of in the media of course. Very hush hush, them being cowards and all...
Yes everyone dies at one point, that's what we are born to do, but there is are different ways! Did you read what I said on being careless with peoples lives?
It's all very dandy when you see the twisted picture in the media but a different matter when you are there yourself. Would you like to be trained as sihhiye (not learning how to shoot properly) and then go to şirnak (perhaps with a 50 year malfunctioning fire arm) for example? Think you would also change your opinion then. |
Not only privates die...
Watch this video...This commander just keeps the bomb inside his hands and it blows in his hands... he loses his hands for the privates under his command... Thats the mentality i talk about... and he says i didnt make anything great... it was my responsibilty to save them...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAi3i-X49o
And my friends are still serving their military service...
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 03:43 am |
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Quoting SuiGeneris:
Not only privates die...
Watch this video...This commander just keeps the bomb inside his hands and it blows in his hands... he loses his hands for the privates under his command... Thats the mentality i talk about... and he says i didnt make anything great... it was my responsibilty to save them...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAi3i-X49o
And my friends are still serving their military service... |
I saw that on tv and may I just say mashallah that was very brave of him.
That is the kind of people the army needs (eg. a professional army). Would any private do this? Maybe some but not most and they should not be obliged to either, because it was not their choice to join the army.
My friends are also still serving. Because they have no other chance.
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 03:45 am |
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Quoting azade:
Yes of course once you are in the army you have to go through with it, mind you I was only following your trail of thought. |
Look girl!
I was counting the bullets going above my house, when you were playing with your baby dolls... i was collecting the empty bullets in our garden... and i was helping my kurdish friends to learn the courses when there was not enough teachers...
What hard times... what unfair things you talk about?
I wasnt sleeping till my dad comes to home... I was crying all nights as if i could be able to see my brother in istanbul...
This situation in Turkey is all of our responsibilty... we are choosing our governors and we have to stand to its results... you have to control your governors if you want to change anything...
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 03:50 am |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting azade:
Yes of course once you are in the army you have to go through with it, mind you I was only following your trail of thought. |
Look girl!
I was counting the bullets going above my house, when you were playing with your baby dolls... i was collecting the empty bullets in our garden... and i was helping my kurdish friends to learn the courses when there was not enough teachers...
What hard times... what unfair things you talk about?
I wasnt sleeping till my dad comes to home... I was crying all nights as if i could be able to see my brother in istanbul...
This situation in Turkey is all of our responsibilty... we are choosing our governors and we have to stand to its results... you have to control your governors if you want to change anything... |
Bak abi!
I know there has been some very hard times, I'm not trying to take that away from you. What I am saying is that you will probably go through a very hard time again when eventually it's your time to serve. At least when you are out in the real world you have a chance to go away from it, if that's what you want to but in the army you will have to stand in front line and accept the bullets. Kusura kalmayın but that's the truth.
If you are feeling so strongly about it why didn't you do it when you were 20, if I may ask?
(Never in my life have I played with dolls by the way  )
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 03:57 am |
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Quoting azade:
Bak abi!
I know there has been some very hard times, I'm not trying to take that away from you. What I am saying is that you will probably go through a very hard time again when eventually it's your time to serve. At least when you are out in the real world you have a chance to go away from it, if that's what you want to but in the army you will have to stand in front line and accept the bullets. Kusura kalmayın but that's the truth.
If you are feeling so strongly about it why didn't you do it when you were 20, if I may ask?
(Never in my life have I played with dolls by the way ) |
Because i am studying dear... after finishing university... when my time comes... i will do that aswell... like my friends are doing... and i am here because i didnt afraid to have what i had to face...
And why dont you really want to see that... Turkey is not ready for a professional army... its getting slowly by slowly maybe... But its not ready yet... he has so many uneducated and unaware of the reality of his/her own country...
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 04:01 am |
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Haha..
Harikasiniz vallahi 
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| 28. |
27 Jan 2008 Sun 04:08 am |
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Quoting SuiGeneris:
Because i am studying dear... after finishing university... when my time comes... i will do that aswell... like my friends are doing... and i am here because i didnt afraid to have what i had to face...
And why dont you really want to see that... Turkey is not ready for a professional army... its getting slowly by slowly maybe... But its not ready yet... he has so many uneducated and unaware of the reality of his/her own country...
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Okay that's fair. Education is a lot more important than serving in an army which there is not much purpose for.
which is why I don't understand your second paragraph. Yes there are many uneducated young turks, but support them in getting one then, instead of wanting them to go to army. When they are finished they are "too old" to actually get an education.
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 04:09 am |
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 07:19 pm |
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My boyfriend is currently serving his military service... He hates it. They are treated like sh** and in terrible conditions . I also have lots of friends with boyfriends serving at the moment and more to go in later this year, they are all very proud to be Turkish but none of them want to go in.......they are dreading the time arriving. 3 months is the general time for training, my boyfriend was 6 weeks in training, but some of my friends boyfriends did even less and were then sent off to the Iraq borders how can the Turkish military justify this?? One friend of ours finished his military service 2 years ago, and still has to see a councillor as his nighterrors are driving him insane! Seeing his friend shot dead beside him.....and all at just 20 years old!! Only 2 weeks ago a young soldier was found dead from the cold in the morning in his bed......they are freezing, and run into the ground with not enough sleep and being beaten and abused by the 'big soldiers'...!
I hope they do cut the time from 15 months ........I cant wait to get my boyfriend back and just hope the experience hasnt messed with his head too much!
Thanks for your views I enjoyed reading them.
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