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Military service announcement??
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 08:10 pm |
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Quoting azade: Why don't you open your eyes to what's going on instead of dodging and changing the subject? |
Look, I dont wish to be hard on you, nor do I wish to hurt your feelings...but you have to understand one thing..
When it comes to my fatherland, your boy friend's petty problems are mere trivia for me.
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 08:15 pm |
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You are one funny nationalist. Why don't you just face reality?
I am NOT talking from selfish reasons, merely paying some respect to the martyrs who lost their lives and aid in preventing this in the future.
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 08:33 pm |
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azade, if you believe the god I believe - you should know that those who fall fighting for their country need nothing from any of us...they can not be in a better place.
If you have to worry or do something....do something for those the they leave behind....some of them do need help !
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 08:51 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: azade, if you believe the god I believe - you should know that those who fall fighting for their country need nothing from any of us...they can not be in a better place. |
This is always a worrying thing that religious people say. It promotes the idea that life is not precious because you have something much better awaiting you and there is big reward for dying for your particular "cause". It is the same thing that they say to suicide bombers.
Just suppose that this is IT and there is no "other place" eh?
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 08:59 pm |
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It is not that life is not precious, it is that fatherland is more precious.
Discussing this concept with me is futile. All else is trivia, when it comes to fatherland !
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 09:01 pm |
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I sounded like Julius Caezar.
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 09:03 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: I sounded like Julius Caezar. |
Hahahahaha yesssssssss!  (made me laugh out loud!)
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 09:16 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III:
This is always a worrying thing that religious people say. It promotes the idea that life is not precious because you have something much better awaiting you and there is big reward for dying for your particular "cause". |
That is absolutely true, but only works for Moslems. 
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 09:19 pm |
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Hmmmm I wonder if you could clarify something then. Do they ALL go to 'paradise' if they do something in the name of Allah? I am thinking about terrorists now.
For example, if someone came and set off a suicide bomb in your home, killing all your family, in the name of Allah and was quite convinced he was right, you would be happy that he would go to eternal paradise because he is a muslim? 
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 09:25 pm |
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Well I'm muslim but I believe that one should not throw their life away for something they don't believe in.
Fighting for one's homeland is a great and admireable deed, but there should be pure intentions behind it and no one should be forced to do it.
If everyone (men and women) had the choice of joining the army you would get loads of great soldiers who would defend their homeland much better than twice the amount of drafted soldiers. If you don't want to completely throw away the concept of mandatory army service then give them a choice to do something else, there's loads of things they could do for the community instead.
On the thought of helping families of young martyrs, don't you think the families would be more proud than bitter if they knew their sons (or daughters) did it because it was something they believed in?
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27 Jan 2008 Sun 09:27 pm |
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In islam there are two kinds of sins...those committed against Allah himself..disobedience to or negligence of his orders etc...and those comitted againt persons ie, cheating a love stricken lady of her laptop, pretending to love her.
If you are a moslem and you die fighting in protecion of your fatherland or religion, all sins committed against Allah himself are written off. You still have to pay for the laptop.
The above is a simplified version.
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