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EROTIZMA-CAN YÜCEL
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 03:32 am |
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Quoting peace train: Twice today you have wielded the "dreaded" delete threat. Why in public? Everyone knows you have admin powers. I would have thought a PM was more appropriate and would garner more respect from the recipient. Respect seems to be what you crave. |
Canim, you are completely wrong about me and I don't remember confessing my cravings to you.  You may disagree with what I say or do, but I don't see anything wrong with it. I warned Dr Treatment and adonis publicly - nothing wrong with that! They really need to learn how to disagree in a civilized way if they want to participate in conversations. I am yet to hear their arguments being stated in a reasonable way without any extra insults and denigration.
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 03:37 am |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting peace train:
It is nice to see friends being protective of each other. No sarcasm intended, I am being sincere. OK, GG was treated a little harshly (eventually) by another member. However. if you look back on the thread that particular member's original intention was fairly honourable i.e. taking GG to task about her sarcasm towards Alameda. GG had herself been impolite and dicourteous to Alameda, for absolutely no reason.
Matters went too far today and there is no excuse for losing self control. We can all 'mix' it when we want to,but why do we whine when we get rough treatment because of it? We humans are a peculiar breed. |
“That particular member“…which one are you speaking of? The one that thinks he should be Miss Manner’s or the one who asked me if I was horny? What honorable company you were keeping today!!! 
Don’t pretend you are offering an olive branch of peace and then try to slap it back against me. I have been very clear in my criticism of alameda. You thinking it is 'absolutely no reason' is your opinion!
I am curious though….who exactly was whining?
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"Olive branch of peace" ?
I was acknowledging the kindness of handsom in speaking nicely of you. I'm not pretending anything. My reason for it was to show that you were not the only one in need of friendly defence, Alameda was in need of it too (from me) because of her treatment at your hands.
Yes you have been very sarcastic (critical was your description)towards Alameda in this thread and it was absolutely unsolicited.
Yes, this is my opinion. I put it forward to balance your attitude towards Alameda.
We all whine from time to time and it's often not justified. We only have ourselves to blame, some of us never seem to see that though.
I said nothing in the chatroom of any consequence, it's a public place, just like this, with anyone observing. I may be so dim I only just found out about the chat room today but I'm not so stupid as to tell all my business or anyone else's business there (I save that for pm s  ).
I told everyone that was there what I thought, and said people should be careful when posting comments. Of course I fully expected you to make out it was something a little more clandestine. You're welcome to do that if it makes you feel better about yourself. Don't worry about me, I have very broad shoulders  .
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 03:43 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting peace train: Twice today you have wielded the "dreaded" delete threat. Why in public? Everyone knows you have admin powers. I would have thought a PM was more appropriate and would garner more respect from the recipient. Respect seems to be what you crave. |
Canim, you are completely wrong about me and I don't remember confessing my cravings to you. You may disagree with what I say or do, but I don't see anything wrong with it. I warned Dr Treatment and adonis publicly - nothing wrong with that! They really need to learn how to disagree in a civilized way if they want to participate in conversations. I am yet to hear their arguments being stated in a reasonable way without any extra insults and denigration. |
Insulting us at first and playing a role of victim at second fits you very well after taking a spectacular proof from peace train. are u an actress cat? 
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 03:45 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting peace train: Twice today you have wielded the "dreaded" delete threat. Why in public? Everyone knows you have admin powers. I would have thought a PM was more appropriate and would garner more respect from the recipient. Respect seems to be what you crave. |
Canim, you are completely wrong about me and I don't remember confessing my cravings to you. You may disagree with what I say or do, but I don't see anything wrong with it. I warned Dr Treatment and adonis publicly - nothing wrong with that! They really need to learn how to disagree in a civilized way if they want to participate in conversations. I am yet to hear their arguments being stated in a reasonable way without any extra insults and denigration. |
It's not a problem as long as such practice is consistent. Has it been consistent? I think not. They are not the only ones on this site, who have, in your words, insulted and denigrated and been unreasonable in their arguments. And there have also been quite a few other members who needed to learn to disagree in a civilised way. As I said, consistency is they issue. IMO of course.
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 04:45 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting peace train: Quoting catwoman: Adonis, do you need a separate warning, or will you learn as adonis2? |
Common practice of some users . . . wind 'em up then bleat delete.
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Oh, right... now it's my fault that I "wind 'em up" |
Catwoman, as the url for this site is turkishclass.com, you can't be upset when people from the culture named protest when they think their culture is being misrepresented or disparaged in some way. You can not appropriate the name of a people and not expect protest when you disparage their culture.
Certainly we have seen some very rude behavior from members here, who were not deleted....The fact of the matter is GG seems to follow my posts and make rude comments on whatever I say. I have ignored it..but you don't say anything about that behavior.
I've seen many young men come here and get upset by what they see. They don't have a great command of English, the idiom used in US English. They are also not at all used to such frontal attacks on what they see as the honor of their country.
If someone is an agnostic, atheist, free thinker they are welcomed, but if they are Muslim or a traditional Turk, they are belittled and insulted by a group here who are bullies.
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 04:55 am |
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Quoting geniuda: This is my opinion.. a "man" or "gentleman" however you want to call him, should never "insult""offend" etc a woman under any circumstances.
It really makes me sick when I see man having no respect for a woman at all..phisically or verbally.. (period)  |
It goes both ways geniuda....a woman should not insult a man, nor should a man insult a woman.
Nobody has the right to demand respect, you earn it! You reap what you sow....people try talk to you in the language you speak.
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:08 am |
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Quoting peace train:
We all whine from time to time and it's often not justified. We only have ourselves to blame, some of us never seem to see that though.
I said nothing in the chatroom of any consequence, it's a public place, just like this, with anyone observing. I may be so dim I only just found out about the chat room today but I'm not so stupid as to tell all my business or anyone else's business there (I save that for pm s ).
I told everyone that was there what I thought, and said people should be careful when posting comments. Of course I fully expected you to make out it was something a little more clandestine. You're welcome to do that if it makes you feel better about yourself. Don't worry, I have very broad shoulders . |
Show me where I have whined and while you are at it…show me where I said anything about what YOU said in chat.
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:13 am |
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Quoting alameda: If someone is an agnostic, atheist, free thinker they are welcomed, but if they are Muslim or a traditional Turk, they are belittled and insulted by a group here who are bullies. |
That is not true, Alameda. MrX is a traditional Turk, but he doesn't go around calling people menopausic, mini-skirt wearing bastards. Yes, free thinking people are always more comfortable here because they don't get insecure and easily insulted when someone questions their beliefs. It is not about who we are though, but about how we/they interact with each other.
You just feel bad for those traditional people who get easily wound up and who quickly resort to low insults maybe because you think that their whole lives are shattered when someone questions their beliefs. Sorry, civilized discourse is a must here and in a civilized world, those people you are defending better learn it.
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:15 am |
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Quoting alameda:
The fact of the matter is GG seems to follow my posts and make rude comments on whatever I say. I have ignored it..but you don't say anything about that behavior.
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Let's do a bit of math here...you have posted 908 times. I have commented on 10 or so.....doesn't quite add up to me following your posts now does it!
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:15 am |
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Quoting alameda: It goes both ways geniuda....a woman should not insult a man, nor should a man insult a woman.
Nobody has the right to demand respect, you earn it! You reap what you sow....people try talk to you in the language you speak. |
In exactly the same way, those guys will also reap what they sow.
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:18 am |
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And another group insults women . . . women.
And those bullies Alameda mentioned? . . . women.
And the "kindergarten" (Cat's word)activists? . . . women.
Not such a good ad for women are we?
Being a woman does not give us the right to walk rough shod through life, saying whatever we like and x x x x the consequences.
To be accurate this is the Turkish Language Class but
TLC = Tender Loving Care (or Consideration)
Perhaps we (male and female) need to start spreading this a bit more.
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