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EROTIZMA-CAN YÜCEL
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:18 am |
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And another group insults women . . . women.
And those bullies Alameda mentioned? . . . women.
And the "kindergarten" (Cat's word)activists? . . . women.
Not such a good ad for women are we?
Being a woman does not give us the right to walk rough shod through life, saying whatever we like and x x x x the consequences.
To be accurate this is the Turkish Language Class but
TLC = Tender Loving Care (or Consideration)
Perhaps we (male and female) need to start spreading this a bit more.
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:26 am |
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Quoting peace train: And another group insults women . . . women.
And those bullies Alameda mentioned? . . . women.
And the "kindergarten" (Cat's word)activists? . . . women. |
Although I don't understand why you excluded handsom and ciko, this group you are so hatefully, stereotypically and simplistically defining also happens to be a group of open minded, strong, independent, feminist, successful women. And the guys you're defending also happen to be mysogynistic, nationalistic, even sometimes racist, simple minded guys. Why don't you practice what you preach dear? 
In some people's opinions, being a woman, doesn't give you any right!
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:27 am |
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Quoting alameda:
If someone is an agnostic, atheist, free thinker they are welcomed, but if they are Muslim or a traditional Turk, they are belittled and insulted by a group here who are bullies.
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I'm afraid this is true...
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:40 am |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting peace train:
We all whine from time to time and it's often not justified. We only have ourselves to blame, some of us never seem to see that though.
I said nothing in the chatroom of any consequence, it's a public place, just like this, with anyone observing. I may be so dim I only just found out about the chat room today but I'm not so stupid as to tell all my business or anyone else's business there (I save that for pm s  ).
I told everyone that was there what I thought, and said people should be careful when posting comments. Of course I fully expected you to make out it was something a little more clandestine. You're welcome to do that if it makes you feel better about yourself. Don't worry, I have very broad shoulders  . |
Show me where I have whined and while you are at it…show me where I said anything about what YOU said in chat.
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Read the first paragraph of my post . . . it did not refer solely to you and I obviously include myself. But since you ask, I haven't time to "show" you, I'd be here all night! Many of us whine or complain or moan about each other . . . I'm moaning about you right now for instance.
No you didn't SAY anything about what I said in the chat room, but you inferred something about my character. . .
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"…which one are you speaking of? The one that thinks he should be Miss Manner’s or the one who asked me if I was horny? What honorable company you were keeping today!!! "
So I think I have the right to give an account of what my part in that was.
I've nothing more to say. Good evening/
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:43 am |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting alameda:
The fact of the matter is GG seems to follow my posts and make rude comments on whatever I say. I have ignored it..but you don't say anything about that behavior.
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Let's do a bit of math here...you have posted 908 times. I have commented on 10 or so.....doesn't quite add up to me following your posts now does it!
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You actually counted?
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 05:55 am |
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Quoting peace train:
You actually counted? |
Uhhh no...that is why I said 10 or so...what..did you run off and count? 
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 06:01 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting alameda: If someone is an agnostic, atheist, free thinker they are welcomed, but if they are Muslim or a traditional Turk, they are belittled and insulted by a group here who are bullies. |
That is not true, Alameda. MrX is a traditional Turk, but he doesn't go around calling people menopausic, mini-skirt wearing bastards. Yes, free thinking people are always more comfortable here because they don't get insecure and easily insulted when someone questions their beliefs. It is not about who we are though, but about how we/they interact with each other.
You just feel bad for those traditional people who get easily wound up and who quickly resort to low insults maybe because you think that their whole lives are shattered when someone questions their beliefs. Sorry, civilized discourse is a must here and in a civilized world, those people you are defending better learn it. |
You are right Catwoman MrX doesn't insult people, yet he has still had to deal with negative comments from people. He kept his cool and others (male and female) could learn from him.
I could name some women here who get "insecure" and feel "insulted" easily and some have been quite insulting albeit in a more subtle way than the blunt style of a few Turkish men.
There have been a few women guilty of uncivilised discourse Catwoman. You asked me a week or so ago to stop the 'kindergarten' stuff (I had already posted my intention to stop). I'm assuming you told the other participants the same thing and also don't forget you have had your moments too.
Me thinks you are after my crown as the Queen of Sanctimony.
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 06:08 am |
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Quoting peace train: Me thinks you are after my crown as the Queen of Sanctimony.
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Look, nobody is a saint and everybody tries their best. You've had your moments too dear! Don't try to justify some people's behavior because those who accuse them aren't spotless clean either. Yes, in almost every conflict both sides carry some guilt. You seem to completely overlook one side here though..
No, the crown is yours, I'll find my own! 
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 06:33 am |
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Quoting Leelu: wow!!! I missed a lot on this thread .. I has to go back and start reading it from the beginning .. .. |
And just where have you been exactly young lady? You better have a really good excuse for not being here! 
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04 Mar 2008 Tue 07:13 am |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting Leelu: wow!!! I missed a lot on this thread .. I has to go back and start reading it from the beginning .. .. |
And just where have you been exactly young lady? You better have a really good excuse for not being here! |
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm .. the cat ate my homework?
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