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50.       CANLI
5084 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 11:44 am

Quoting Saskia1970:

I once was in Egypt wearing loose, long-sleeved T-shirts and almost baggy trousers, so no fitform jeans that made my body clear to see. But in just 1 week I got 8 times remarks like 'nice boobs, nice bum, want to sleep with me'. And twice a guy was trying to grab me at my breasts - they didn't succeed, I gave them a punch with my elbow. So what about 'not beeing seen as an object'? What about 'wearing whatever you want'?



My dear,you once been to Egypt,but we are ALREADY live in Egypt,and women and girls walking around wearing short shirts and strappy tops ,mini skirts,and what ever they want without any problem
Girls and women in my family not wearing Hijab and also they have no problem
And there are also women who wear hijab and burka,and have no problem
İm sry for the experience you had,but im sure there also are many women are been harassed in Western countries even with hijab not just with short shirts and strappy tops ,mini skirts !

51.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 12:08 pm

Quoting CANLI:


My dear,you once been to Egypt,but we are ALREADY live in Egypt,and women and girls walking around wearing short shirts and strappy tops ,mini skirts,and what ever they want without any problem
Girls and women in my family not wearing Hijab and also they have no problem
And there are also women who wear hijab and burka,and have no problem
İm sry for the experience you had,but im sure there also are many women are been harassed in Western countries even with hijab not just with short shirts and strappy tops ,mini skirts !


I can see no credit to sheria itself in your post.

If women are able to wear mini skirts in Egypt, it is because, sheria is not applied.

If it was, you very well know, they would not be able to.
Am I right?

And also it does not change the fact that they are seen as sinful, blasphemist and ultimately people who are betraying Quran.

52.       CANLI
5084 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 12:10 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

I've heard things get harder in Egypt where you may get physically harassed if you don't look like a giant bag.


Giant bag ?!
So we look like giant bags ?!!!
That was very nice thing to say really.

Look,i dont have problem to say that,only hijab is permitted in Egypt,and women who dont wear it get harassed or fiercely looks or whatever
İ do NOT have problem about it at ALL if that was the case here
Things getting harder here yes,but for women who wear hijab not the other way around
Women and girls who are not wearing hijab can have many opportunities in work that i 'as veiled woman' dont have
So she also get of course better salary better positions

Dont think there are competition here or something,there is none
because ...most companies,banks do NOT hire women who wear hijab at the first place
Except at government official works,they hire both

Anyway,believe what you want its your business
We have 2 satellites with many,many Egyptian channels,Arabsat and NileSat
İf you want,you can find them,and also believe what you want.

53.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 01:02 pm

Quoting CANLI:


Giant bag ?!
So we look like giant bags ?!!!
That was very nice thing to say really.



I'm sorry if that offended you, but, please, what do women wearing a bag may look like? A bag is my only association.


Still, it's your choice to do it and you don't need my permission for it. I was simply giving my opinion. But, according to you, what does it look like?

I'm just curious - why do women decide to wear it if it's not justified by religion.

54.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 05:08 pm

Quote:

what does it look like?



It looks like the lawn bag I used this weekend to put all of my lawn clippings in it.

55.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 05:14 pm

It makes the human being 'unpersonal' to wear such a thing. You take away all that makes a humanbeing look like a humanbeing. You take away all that makes a person unique, you make it look like all human are the same.

56.       catwoman
8933 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 09:01 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

It makes the human being 'unpersonal' to wear such a thing. You take away all that makes a humanbeing look like a humanbeing. You take away all that makes a person unique, you make it look like all human are the same.


... and all that under the idea that women are responsible not to cause any temptation - it's their fault if they are harassed, abused or raped - because men have zero responsibility for their own behavior.
This has simply NOTHING to do with modesty, it is all about control.

57.       RedemptioN
65 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 09:07 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

It makes the human being 'unpersonal' to wear such a thing. You take away all that makes a humanbeing look like a humanbeing. You take away all that makes a person unique, you make it look like all human are the same.


... and all that under the idea that women are responsible not to cause any temptation - it's their fault if they are harassed, abused or raped - because men have zero responsibility for their own behavior.
This has simply NOTHING to do with modesty, it is all about control.



Well said catwoman I couldnt agree with you more
why should women be responsible for some mens inability to control their impulses

58.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 09:31 pm

I don't agree you should be able to wear whatever you want when ever you want. I think there is a time and place when certain attire is appropriate and when it's not. It's usually common sense, however a number of people don't understand logic. It's the "I don't give a shit attitude" that propells attention.

If people actually understood that appearance and first impressions were not a choice but human instinct they would realize this doesn't eliminate or restrict their freedom to express. Quite the opposite..

What impression would you have of a female showing up in a skimpy, clubing outfit to a funeral or to church? What would be your instinct or impression of them?

I also have a hard time believing a burka is appropriate on the other hand. It's another mechanism to propell attention. If you choose to wear it, be prepared for the crude remarks, that goes along with it.

59.       Saskia1970
70 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 09:48 pm

Quoting CANLI:

but im sure there also are many women are been harassed in Western countries even with hijab not just with short shirts and strappy tops ,mini skirts !



In the 37 years of my life I haven't had that many rude and sexist remarks in any country (and I've seen a lot!) as I had in that one week in Egypt. Nice country Egypt, beautiful piramids, museums, desert, valleys etcetera. But going back? No way. That attitude of the men there (women were not really visible, if they were out on the streets they walked like they were in a hurry or they were dressed in burka's which isn't an invitation for a friendly chat) is not what I'm looking for on a vacation.

60.       libralady
5152 posts
 12 May 2008 Mon 09:51 pm

A friend of mine whose husband was in the USAF during the 1st Gulf war and they were posted there, she told me you would be amazed at what the women wear under the Burka.

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