Well, Sonunda and Lady in red, I realise lots of people might be using English keyboard, but what I said was getting used to writing Turkish without the Turkish characters using the English keyboard.  As the other person you are communicating with is a native speaker too, nobody gets bothered, and you start just ignoring the Turkish characters.  This is habit, and I already apologised for it.

The second thing is that, I am not up-to-date about internet ettiquettes, that´s why I simply did not realise writing in capitals would offend.. I forgot my capslock on, and I wrote everything in capitals..  and I apologised for that too..

But what I don´t understand is, why do you take it so personal?  I have not sent you a private message so far.  The only thing I did was to correct the translation..  But your replies quoting my name has been very mean. 

 1. I wasn´t offended - althought it is annoying - I was just doing my ´job´ as a mod and letting you know the rules

2. I didn´t mean to be ´mean´ it´s just that this is a Turkish Language Class - which means that Sonunda and I - and quite a number of others - are actually trying to learn Turkish or improve on what we already know and it is difficult when Turkish native speakers don´t use the correct letters - especially so for complete beginners.

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"But what I don´t understand is, why do you take it so personal?"

Merih-I didn´t take anything ´personally´just as there was nothing meant personally against you.

 One more nice comment from dear Merih i agree with you again.

And i understand you Lady in Red....   You must not be made fearing of Turkish...

And hope i haven´t caused someone to get offended.

I sometimes try to teach how would be the best way as well...

I will be more careful afterwards and try to encourage you all

I think we should stop translating ´caným´!!

What is the literal translation of " yazý mý tura mý?´  

is it like "a piece of paper or a whole skein of paper?"

you see, I would have never guessed it means the same as ´heads or tails´

I do like to see both types of translations that are literal and those that are arranged because it actually helps me to see the different usages of the nouns or verbs and sentence constructions.

I just looked up ´yazý´ and one meaning is actually ´tail´ so that solves half the puzzle

hmm unfortunately ´yazý´ will not bring up the word tail in this site dictionary.  

If I reverse look up ´tail´ and yazý comes up 5th on the list of possibilities and here it is not comprehensible, for me anyway 

tail

5. çoð. yazý, madeni bir paranýn resimsiz yüzü.   <<<so, what does that mean??

That is telling you that ´yazýi usually refers to the sýde of a metal coýn wýthout a pýcture (i.e. ´head´ - therefore ´tail´

coðu = usually/mostly     maden = metal    resimsiz yüzü  = ´face´ without a picture

BTW you do sometimes need to ´reverse look up´ words to find them! 

Thank you kindly Lady in Red for you explanation, translation and time

çoð.  = coðu = usually/mostly  (çoðu) 

and thank you for the meaning of:  " çoð. "  as the dictionary firmly directs me to ´cog´ of which has a different meaning altogether. 

çoð.  = coðu = usually/mostly  (çoðu)

it is interesting what the subtle c and g ...to ç and ð  differences can make.