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Ergenekon (again) Tip of the iceberg of crime
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20.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 06:31 pm

Challenge yourselves:

Four questions that could make you a terrorist

21.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 06:32 pm

Quoting ciko:


Well if you read my other posts you would see i never say they must go to mountain to solve problems. they die for nothing as you said and soldiers die for nothing as well...just our dear army and state getting more holier for people each day..but still no problem has been solved. the state and army's politics on east is just making kurdish more and more angry.

Last month a child could not get into Turkey only because he has a kurdish name.. there are thousands of samples like that.. just dont expect uneducated kurdish people to be loyal this merciful state that is feeding terrorism.



Its again us who promotes and votes those bloody idiot politics... right?

About feeding terrorism... true that government feeds that... and also lots of other governments feeding this terrorist organisation because of their benefits...

I dont know if you ever watched but there is a documentary about "religions and this terror organisations" called "Zeigeist" i guess. Well, the state cannot be blamed at all because of an idiot officer in the borders is not taking a child inside because of a kurdish name... But thats also seems another story for uprising again that kurds and turks discrimination...

22.       ciko
784 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 06:36 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Challenge yourselves:

Four questions that could make you a terrorist



we cant get into that site catwoman... Banned... the country of Bans

23.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 06:42 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting catwoman:

Challenge yourselves:

Four questions that could make you a terrorist



we cant get into that site catwoman... Banned... the country of Bans


You haven't been following the conversations here, have you?

Go here to see how to access youtube: (post #3)
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_7_30836

24.       ciko
784 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 06:51 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting catwoman:

Challenge yourselves:

Four questions that could make you a terrorist



we cant get into that site catwoman... Banned... the country of Bans


You haven't been following the conversations here, have you?

Go here to see how to access youtube: (post #3)
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_7_30836



i watched but but my english is not good enough to understand it properly nevermind..sui is gone... there is no one else to argue..i am leaving too

25.       KeithL
1455 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 07:25 pm

I would gladly have members of Ergenekon as my neighbors than any filth of the PKK.

26.       catwoman
8933 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 10:23 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


I keep posting about this subject, but in my opinion, Turkey has NEVER come to this close to confront these fascists in her entire history. It is a historical moment for Turkey.


That is very good. Terrorists of all walks of life need to be shut down.

27.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 10:41 pm

I think, in my previous threads, I tried to explain that the way we have been looking at this problem and the way we have been handling it has been so wrong.
Reducing the entire kurdish problem into 'terrorism ONLY' was the idea, coming from 'fascist generals' and their manipulation of the public/media..

Insisting that 'we do NOT have kurdish problem but terrorism only' is a huge lie and nobody believes it anymore.

We all know that we have a kurdish problem. ('we have had it since the begining of our republic' will be a correct statement)
have you ever thought why we are saying 'NOW they can speak kurdish' proudly?
It is an admission that they could not before!.
is it NOT?

Basically, since the begining we have been making mistakes.

And boasting idioticly, 'aha!! we went and killed 10 of them, 20 of them, we will kill 500 of them' and not thinking that 'they are this country's boys as well' is not only primitive and blood thirsty but they are undermining the ultimate goal which is 'we Turks and Kurds can live together'.

28.       KeithL
1455 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 10:42 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:


I keep posting about this subject, but in my opinion, Turkey has NEVER come to this close to confront these fascists in her entire history. It is a historical moment for Turkey.


That is very good. Terrorists of all walks of life need to be shut down.



Without those who wish to return to Sharia Law (AKP) and the PKK (with its supporters and symapthizers lurking), there would be no need for Ergenekon...

29.       KeithL
1455 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 11:01 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

And boasting idioticly, 'aha!! we went and killed 10 of them, 20 of them, we will kill 500 of them' and not thinking that 'they are this country's boys as well' is not only primitive and blood thirsty but they are undermining the ultimate goal which is 'we Turks and Kurds can live together'.



As someone who gladly contributes to this Country's economy and pays my fair share of taxes, let me say that these are not "this country's boys"...

30.       KeithL
1455 posts
 17 Jul 2008 Thu 11:10 pm

It is easy for you to have this view. You escaped your village, got an education and have a nice life in a western country. I am very happy for you. Sincerely...
But those of us who chose to come here (and make things better), much less those who choose to stay, what for us?
Do we need to live with the constant threat? Why?
This isnt Plaestine. This isnt South Afrika.
Kurds suffer poverty just like Turks who live in the east. Just like Turks who live in all areas of istanbul. This doesn't give them the right to kill innocents and demand their own country. They are free to travel, vote, work, go to school just like everyone else. What disadvantage does a poor Kurd suffer that a poor turk does not also suffer? And what privelege doe a wealthy Turk enjoy that a wealthy Kurd does also not enjoy????
These are the lies and propaganda of the PKK.

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