does that mean she is quieter than her arrogant full of himself husband

who thinks a modest wife is good for the kitchen and mother of his children but wants to visit the local whore house for fun and games because his wife is simple , simple minded and bores him.

explain your definition of modest

also is it a 2 way street maybe she would want a modest husband who does not stray and he keeps his righteous idea´s to himself.

Dear Gokuyum

why do you make these posts about you and feel the need to refute them with your own personal examples. There is more than one Turk on this website or are you using many names ...........????

You know I like the attention.Actually the reason is that I am just bored. I want to fight for you for fun

why turkish men lie so much foreign girls??? i just dont get it...

Its funny. I don´t know about Europe or the rest of the world but to marry a woman (or man) for a Visa to come to America is the most stupidest thing someone can do. Americans can´t even get jobs in America because there is no jobs and most of the illigal Mexicans as is take up most of the work where work is under the table not to mention they get 1/3rd of normal pay and sometimes don´t even get paid at all, what can they do....complain? Not to mention the vast growing of outsourcing. America is a dead end. Not to mention you can´t get a home or apartment without a squeaky clean background or near spotless credit. Unless you sell drugs......there is nothing here. Doctors and Nurses are the only job that seem to always always need filling. I know many many educated people with degrees who can´t even find a job. Unless they marry someone with wealth and or a good job. Otherwise good luck! I am poor, and I can´t have kids. So if someone wants to marry me for a Visa, well....sorry, you won´t get far unless the cardboard box mansion I live in is good enough. I do not plan to get married for a long long time. I know more successful long term unmarried couples than ones who got married and stayed married!

because foreign girls like turkish men back

because foreigns girls like turkish men too?? you are crazy??? this is not a reason to lie someone..it is very sad..i just was on holyday in Turkey...i really trust a man ..there..and in fact..i come home..and he even didnt call once..but swore he loves me )) ..so i dont understand..why turkye should lie so much..only for one night??? so stupid...it makes medont trust people anymore...A woman need facts..not words

If you slept with him that was first mistake! If they say they love you after like say 2 days (or even a week) you should already know its a sack of lies.

no sex.

American men are worse.

maybe ))) ..

maybe i am so naiv..to think that every where are good people...i just didnt meet them...only liars )))

maybe it is not okay to talk about turkish men in generaly..but after such experience ( i repeat ...this man i thought he is my friend)..i´´ ll stay far from this nationality...i love the language..but mariage..no way..it is not possible even others type of relations..

Find a man from your country if you dont want to take a risk.