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RELIGION
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:09 pm |
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Kuran-ý Kerim 37. sure “Saffat”, ayetler: 102, 103, 107, vb
The Holy Quran , Surah 37, “As- Saffat” , verses 102, 103, 107,etc.
Source=The other religious books.
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:28 pm |
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Are you suggesting Yilgun is presuasive or decietful????
And why have you pluralised kandýrmak 
I think Armegon is saying ´they deceived/persuaded you yilgun´
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:30 pm |
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Source:
Kuran-ý Kerim 37. sure “Saffat”, ayetler: 102, 103, 107, vb
The Holy Quran , Surah 37, “As- Saffat” , verses 102, 103, 107,etc.
Source=The other religious books.
Yilgun why are you quoting the source? We all know this is a story to be found in both the Koran and in the Bible.
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:32 pm |
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I think Armegon is saying ´they deceived/persuaded you yilgun´
Ah! - that makes sense.......
But shouldn´t seni then be at the start of the sentence?
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:34 pm |
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Ah! - that makes sense.......
But shouldn´t seni then be at the start of the sentence?
Do you always write in English totally grammatically correctly?? 
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:38 pm |
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Do you always write in English totally grammatically correctly??
I always strive to do so - especially on a forum where many members are learners of the language!!!
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:41 pm |
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I always strive to do so - especially on a forum where many members are learners of the language!!!
Yes - so do I but in all my Turkish learning books it tells you to put the verb at the end of the sentence/clause but I have noticed both in spoken and written Turkish they often don´t do this. Hopefully Armegon will come back and explain - you know I´m only learning!
Modify: Oh look!! There he is now!!
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:46 pm |
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Source:
Kuran-ý Kerim 37. sure “Saffat”, ayetler: 102, 103, 107, vb
The Holy Quran , Surah 37, “As- Saffat” , verses 102, 103, 107,etc.
Source=The other religious books.
Þimdi bu ayetlerle aþaðýda yazýlaný doðrulaya biliyor musun? Hayýr. Yok melek gelmiþ de elini tutmuþta falan filan. Senin anlattýðýn hikaye daha çok Ãsrailiyat kaynaklý, biraz da çorba gibi . Kýsaca verdiðin bu ayetlere göre Ãbrahim peygamber rüyasýnda oðlunu kurban edeceðini görüyor ve bunu oðlunu anlatýyor, oðlu da emrolduðun iþi yap diyor. Ãbrahim peygamber oðlunu adak olarak adamasýnýn ardýndan, Allah´a baðlýlýðýndan ötürü Ãshak ile müjdeleniyor. Yani ne gerek var çorba yapmaya
Hazreti Ãbrahim, býçaðý ile gözleri bir bezle kapalý bulunan oðlu ÃSMAÃL (ISHMAEL or ISAAC - ÃSHAK)´ ýn baþýný tam kesmek üzere iken, Allah bir meleðini göndererek, hazreti Ãbrahim’in býçak ile kalkan kolunu havada tutturmuþ ve “Bundan böyle oðlunu deðil, bu kurbanlýk koçu keseceksin,” diye buyurmuþ.
Bu esnada, Melek, gökyüzünden getirdiði koyunu Hazreti Ãbrahim´e teslim etmiþ.
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 01:48 pm |
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Hopefully Armegon will come back and explain - you know I´m only learning!
Your translation is correct, thank you LIR for explaining instead of me
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 02:36 pm |
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Do you always write in English totally grammatically correctly??
But mine is gramatically correct 
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11 Dec 2008 Thu 02:54 pm |
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Actually he was correct.
The story is in the Qu´ran but it is also in the Bible. If Yilgun wanted the Turkish to be translated into English it would make sense to translate Ismail into Isaac - the name that would be recognised by the English - wouldn´t it? In the same way as if he had written about Isa or Nuh - I would expect to see these names translated to Jesus and Noah in the English version.
So he was quite correct
Translated,is to say same what he said or meant but in the other language.
Ãsaac is not Ãsmail,they are 2 different persons
And 2 different believes!
Ãn Ãslam we believe it was Ãsmail,and in Christianity,you believe it was Ãssac
So its not same to say that the story was about Ãssac when we are talking from Muslims point of view
Ãn your example,Ãsa is Jesus...that is same person,so it makes sense of course to say Jesus instead of Ãsa, no problem,and wont change anything.
But here,Ãsmail and Ãssac is 2 different believes...its different
So he was far away from being correct .
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