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160.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 01:44 am

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Perhaps you should read your history books.  The Brits and the Dutch (among other "Christian" countries) were doing that LONG before....

 

and they don`t do it anymore? <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

161.       CANLI
5084 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 01:52 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 You very well know I´m not talking exclusively about Muslims on TLC when mentioning respect but you stated that ´it was a Muslim thing´. Maybe you should ask some guys in Indonesia, Sudan or Nigeria why they kill people only, yes only!!, because they´re not a Muslim. That´s what I meant with violence but you seem to enjoy turning my words.  

 

 Noo, noo, noo, you got that wrong, muslims were killed in Nigeria by christians where the majority there are muslims but the Christian countries are supporting the ruling Christians there where they are almost %20 of the population, and you can check that out !

And you also Forgot China, didnt you, there were Muslims there not others

How about Ýraq and Afghanistan...?!

We dont draw offensive cartoons or make offensive movies about other´s religions

We dont talk without respect about others prophets...etc

 

Anyway, iLoVetHaTx3 asked respect from TLC members not from the whole world, so did Queent and so do i.

That respect wont neither  decrease nor increase my belief.

Actually it wont effect my own belief nor Ýslam over all

The point is, it will make us able to share one place and communicate.

Mutual respect its called.

Respecting what the other belif is respecting his/her choice, it donest mean you believe or accept what they believe !

So ÝT ÝS  exclusively at TLC not about the whole world

Ýn fact i dont give a d**n about the whole world and what do they think or feel about us Muslims, i have my beliefe and thats enough for me

They think we are wrong, we also think they are wrong, if they dont like us...so what, we also wont like them

Ý dont really care !

Ýts about TLC and members here, because we share same place, and to be even able to communicate and talk with each others, where you refused what s/he asked and said..´´when i feel like it ´´ !



Edited (8/25/2009) by CANLI

162.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 02:04 am

Nobody is going to win this argument.  This goes round and round every time these discussion start up.  Accusations are thrown from both sides, everybody gets all riled up and pissed off and twisted up (which is another thing I really don´t understand but I guess I will save that commentary for another time)!

 

If a muslim person chooses to fast....why should anyone else get their panties all knotted over it?   You don´t have to participate so eat up!!! 

 

And on the other side....if someone doesn´t respect your choice....who cares!!!  What difference does it make what anyone thinks as long as you are ok with your reasons for doing it and it is a choice for you.

 

This back and forth solves nothing and only stirs up tension.   Everyone wants the final word!!! 

You all just need to get over yourselves.

163.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 02:15 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

 Respecting the religion? You´re funny. Tell that to all Muslims who are calling names to non-Muslims (not to talk about physical violence).

 

 

 

what are those names? raghead? diaperhead?

164.       iLoVetHaTx3
53 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 03:07 am

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

I must absolutely nothing, not from anyone, not even the law. It is ALWAYS my own choice to obey a law or to pay respect to people I think who deserve it (and that´s NOT automatically). Demanding my respect makes me only more critical.

 

 I´m not demanding anything. I´m just letting you know that when you criticize someone else´s belief it´s disrespectful. So, if you want to go on to be a judgemental, disrespectful, ignorant person then go ahead, it´s your life. You will be the one judged at the end of the day by the Highest Power. It´s wrong to criticize someone else´s belief. It´d be different if their belief was to kill every non-Islam or something of that nature, but what they´re doing isn´t harming anyone. So therefore, don´t disrespect others beliefs. You wouldn´t want someone to disrespect your ways or your beliefs, it would offend you, so there for , sus. Like they say, if you don´t have anything nice to say, then don´t say anything. Cool

165.       iLoVetHaTx3
53 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 03:10 am

 

Quoting lady in red

 

 

iLoVeHatx3 didn´t ask for respect, she said you must respect and that is what Trudy was objecting to.

 It´s not what I meant. I should´ve been more clear. You must respect others beliefs, if you want to be a good , open - minded, respectful indivual. Also, if I was demanding respect, I would´ve said way more than that. Cool

 

166.       catwoman
8933 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 06:04 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Nobody is going to win this argument.  This goes round and round every time these discussion start up.  Accusations are thrown from both sides, everybody gets all riled up and pissed off and twisted up (which is another thing I really don´t understand but I guess I will save that commentary for another time)!

 

If a muslim person chooses to fast....why should anyone else get their panties all knotted over it?   You don´t have to participate so eat up!!! 

 

And on the other side....if someone doesn´t respect your choice....who cares!!!  What difference does it make what anyone thinks as long as you are ok with your reasons for doing it and it is a choice for you.

 

This back and forth solves nothing and only stirs up tension.   Everyone wants the final word!!! 

You all just need to get over yourselves.

 

True, but we don´t necessarily should see and treat this as an argument to win. I think it´s good to share ideas and see what different people think. Occasionally that leads to someone learning something. lol

167.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 07:39 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

True, but we don´t necessarily should see and treat this as an argument to win. I think it´s good to share ideas and see what different people think. Occasionally that leads to someone learning something. lol

 

 True enough but learning can only happen when people are actually open to hearing other points of view...not just in defending their own.  Roll eyes

168.       baklava
16 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 10:14 am

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Yes its weak and faulty full of errors religion that about 1,525,532,460 - 1,559,728,143  person believe in, but sure you know better !

We have something called ´´respecting the religion´ its a muslim thing, thats why you dont find us make fun of our religion or other´s religions or prophets.

 

Quantity doesnt make impressions on me, but quality. You see there are over 6 billion of us. All 6 billions are idiots, only a few are genius.

 

169.       nomorebasta
4 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 10:33 am

Herkese merhaba

Actually Quran and Koran are both right. Please check .

Selamlar and happy Ramadan.

Hana

170.       _AE_
677 posts
 25 Aug 2009 Tue 10:52 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Nobody is going to win this argument.  This goes round and round every time these discussion start up.  Accusations are thrown from both sides, everybody gets all riled up and pissed off and twisted up (which is another thing I really don´t understand but I guess I will save that commentary for another time)!

 

If a muslim person chooses to fast....why should anyone else get their panties all knotted over it?   You don´t have to participate so eat up!!! 

 

And on the other side....if someone doesn´t respect your choice....who cares!!!  What difference does it make what anyone thinks as long as you are ok with your reasons for doing it and it is a choice for you.

 

This back and forth solves nothing and only stirs up tension.   Everyone wants the final word!!! 

You all just need to get over yourselves.

 

 +10000000000000000

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