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30.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 04:36 am

 

Quoting deli

I have nothing but admiration for all who fast for one month ,today was my first attempt ,I managed it ,but it was so hard in the heat. Tomorrow I wont fast ,I will prepare myself for the next day. All I  seemed to do all day was ask what the time was ,than when iftar came I was so excited about having a glass of water ,how we take these luzuries for granted ,but that glass of water tasted like pure heaven to me ,and this was just one day of fasting ,you guys that fast for a month are unbelievable ,I. admire your strength and commitment.

 

Congratulations Deli!

 

It was an amazing experience wasn´t it?  When you fast, each day is unique.

31.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 10:48 am

I´m not sure I understand the whole ´fasting´ part of Ramazan really.  

 

As far as the not eating goes it´s no particular hardship to go without food for a day.  I frequently only eat an evening meal and have done so throughout my adult life.  And once the iftar gun has gone off the restaurants here are doing big business with special iftar dinners and everywhere you look people are gulping food down as if there was no tomorrow.  Wiki says: ´Fasting is meant to teach the Muslim patience, modesty and spirituality´ and ´is a time of reflecting and worshipping God´ - when for a lot of people most of their thoughts seem to be occupied with how soon sundown will come around. (I suppose it keeps the wicked thoughts away to a certain extent!)  


It´s the ´not drinking´ that is the difficult thing and it´s not just difficult but, in this heat, seems to me downright dangerous.  I´m sure it helps people feel spiritual - they are probably feeling so light-headed they are seeing things.

 

However - a quick straw poll of people around here showed me that it´s the not being able to smoke that´s the most difficult part and many people seem to not ´do´ Ramazan because they can´t manage without a cigarette for 3/4 of a day!  The Evil Tobacco wins over Islam!

 

(Please Alameda, Canlý and QueenT etc. - no long posts explaining the true meaning of Ramadan/Ramazan to me - I am not disrespecting Muslims, Islam or Ramazan - just voicing my opinion)

 

 



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32.       Queent
183 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 11:27 am

 

Quoting lady in red

I´m not sure I understand the whole ´fasting´ part of Ramazan really.  

 

As far as the not eating goes it´s no particular hardship to go without food for a day.  I frequently only eat an evening meal and have done so throughout my adult life.  And once the iftar gun has gone off the restaurants here are doing big business with special iftar dinners and everywhere you look people are gulping food down as if there was no tomorrow.  Wiki says: ´Fasting is meant to teach the Muslim patience, modesty and spirituality´ and ´is a time of reflecting and worshipping God´ - when for a lot of people most of their thoughts seem to be occupied with how soon sundown will come around. (I suppose it keeps the wicked thoughts away to a certain extent!)  


It´s the ´not drinking´ that is the difficult thing and it´s not just difficult but, in this heat, seems to me downright dangerous.  I´m sure it helps people feel spiritual - they are probably feeling so light-headed they are seeing things.

 

However - a quick straw poll of people around here showed me that it´s the not being able to smoke that´s the most difficult part and many people seem to not ´do´ Ramazan because they can´t manage without a cigarette for 3/4 of a day!  The Evil Tobacco wins over Islam!

 

(Please Alameda, Canlý and QueenT etc. - no long posts explaining the true meaning of Ramadan/Ramazan to me - I am not disrespecting Muslims, Islam or Ramazan - just voicing my opinion)

 

 

 

For you be able to understand the whole fasting part of Ramazan, you should know that from Ýslam not from the behaviour of some Muslims around you.

I agree with you in this ´people are gulping food down as if there was no tomorrow´, and this is a behaviour of people and not the spirit of Ramazan nor the aim behind fasting.

It´s good you are looking forward to understand, I just ask you not to mix between Ýslam and some Muslims and I´m quite sure you´ll understand correctly.

33.       Queent
183 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 11:37 am

 

Quoting deli

I have nothing but admiration for all who fast for one month ,today was my first attempt ,I managed it ,but it was so hard in the heat. Tomorrow I wont fast ,I will prepare myself for the next day. All I  seemed to do all day was ask what the time was ,than when iftar came I was so excited about having a glass of water ,how we take these luzuries for granted ,but that glass of water tasted like pure heaven to me ,and this was just one day of fasting ,you guys that fast for a month are unbelievable ,I. admire your strength and commitment.

 

Admiration for you too.

And admiration for whom fast the whole year.

34.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 11:51 am

While admiring eachother, please be careful with your health

 

Dangers of fasting

...

Fasting can harm all organs. It is extremely dangerous to health, especially for those who are malnourished by chronic illness, yet some proponents recommend fasting to treat chronic illnesses. The slimmer the individual, the more dangerous a fast will be. ....

 

Solid scientific research does not support the claims of fasting advocates. To the contrary, ...

 

Advocates believe that fasting can produce fatigue, anemia, irregular heartbeat, body aches, nausea, dizziness, and other negative effects. ..

 

Contrary to advocacy claims, fasting does not and cannot heal medical conditions, assist immune or other physiological function, or play a role in health maintenance. ...

 

35.       joanne1980
125 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 12:00 pm

But I also think it says that if you are not well or in some way sick at all handsom then you do not have to fast at all.  It is for those of us who are healthy and able to fast without causing harm to the body.....as far as i am aware.

36.       baklava
16 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 12:09 pm

 

Quoting joanne1980

But I also think it says that if you are not well or in some way sick at all handsom then you do not have to fast at all.  It is for those of us who are healthy and able to fast without causing harm to the body.....as far as i am aware.

 

 It is wrong and extremely unhealthy not to eat during the day and eat at night.

And also quite dangerous to feast straight after.

I hope you know that.

37.       joanne1980
125 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 12:37 pm

 

Quoting baklava

 

 

 It is wrong and extremely unhealthy not to eat during the day and eat at night.

And also quite dangerous to feast straight after.

I hope you know that.

 

 fair enough..you can have that veiw point.  I disagree.

38.       joanne1980
125 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 12:39 pm

 

Quoting joanne1980

 

 

 fair enough..you can have that veiw point.  I disagree.

 

 this basically says that if done correctly then fasting can be healthy, from NHS website

 

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Healthyramadan/Pages/Fastingandhealth.aspx

39.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 01:13 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

While admiring eachother, please be careful with your health

 

Dangers of fasting

...

 

Fasting can harm all organs. It is extremely dangerous to health, especially for those who are malnourished by chronic illness, yet some proponents recommend fasting to treat chronic illnesses. The slimmer the individual, the more dangerous a fast will be. ....

 

Solid scientific research does not support the claims of fasting advocates. To the contrary, ...

 

Advocates believe that fasting can produce fatigue, anemia, irregular heartbeat, body aches, nausea, dizziness, and other negative effects. ..

 

Contrary to advocacy claims, fasting does not and cannot heal medical conditions, assist immune or other physiological function, or play a role in health maintenance. ...

 

 

 

 Ã wonder how fast muslims who has diabet ? pure death!

40.       joanne1980
125 posts
 24 Aug 2009 Mon 01:15 pm

Diabetics do not have to fast in Islam.

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