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Ramadan in Turkey
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 04:56 pm |
What was the solution for diabetics in 7th century when Islam was created?
They would just die and their relatives would consider it as ´faith´!!!!
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 04:59 pm |
They would just die and their relatives would consider it as ´faith´!!!!
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 05:00 pm |
I would NOT jump into any conclusion like that if I were you.
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 05:04 pm |
Diabetic people don´t have to fast, they have the excuse not to fast.
How do you remind people saying ´danger of fasting´, people here and there are mature enough to know if they can fast or not.
Were you existing all over the time to remind people for such a danger, people were fasting centuries before Ãslam, since Ãslam people are fasting for centuries too, did you remind people all this time, or your ancestors did .... ( I mean ancestors in ideas)
I already mentioned that people who are diabetic but dont know they are..
I am trying to remind because ´the uplifting spirit of fasting´ seems quite strong in some of you guys..
You should not forget the dangers of it.. That is all..
And about the history, please read my prevous post..They were most likely considered as ´God gives, god takes..It is faith´
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 05:06 pm |
What was the solution for diabetics in 7th century when Islam was created?
Ãslam was delivered not created and i believe in the 7th century diabetics wasnt known to anyone as many other illness on that time.
Edited (8/24/2009) by CANLI
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 05:08 pm |
I would NOT jump into any conclusion like that if I were you.
Not a conclusion handsom, you didnt make it a secret tho !
Everyone with a little brain in his head would understand this.
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 05:15 pm |
I already mentioned that people who are diabetic but dont know they are..
I am trying to remind because ´the uplifting spirit of fasting´ seems quite strong in some of you guys..
You should not forget the dangers of it.. That is all..
And about the history, please read my prevous post..They were most likely considered as ´God gives, god takes..It is faith´
handsom, who gave you the assumption that we are ignorant and we dont read ?!
Ãt seems to me thats what you think about us, so you try to teach us about our religion and show us the right way !
You dont accept that we may not be ignorant and still believe in Ãslam.
As you had the choice to stop believing in Ãslam, you should accept also our choice that we believe in it and find it the suitable religion for us.
Dont pick on any chance to attack it and fight it even if it was just a debat about entering a mosque !
Have your chioce and let us have ours !
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 05:25 pm |
Not a conclusion handsom, you didnt make it a secret tho !
Everyone with a little brain in his head would understand this.
I think the level of blood suger is abit low around here...
(That was what I was talking about)
So I will stop now..
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 05:28 pm |
I´m not sure I understand the whole ´fasting´ part of Ramazan really.
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(Please Alameda, Canlý and QueenT etc. - no long posts explaining the true meaning of Ramadan/Ramazan to me - I am not disrespecting Muslims, Islam or Ramazan - just voicing my opinion)
Ãm not sure if you are asking about it, or just expressing /voicing your opinion ´which you said you dont understand the whole ´fasting´ part of Ramazan ´
Fasting is about controlling yourself..the ability of controlling yourself not just about fast over food
But you fast over everything, bad habits, desires, food, water...etc
And try to spend your time for the aim of worshipping ALLAH, not just praying and reading Quran, but worshipping ALLAH at any other form too
To think how to make another family happy, how to help the poor to enjoy Ãftar time as same as you enjoy it, how to try to make no one need anything at that month if we can
That with the hope that spirit will continue through the whole year not only in Ramadan.
How would we control ourselves, our temper and remember that we are fasting even at the crowded traffic when someone may be a cause of an expected accident, how would we control our temper and instead of shout and fight just blame and sort it out and say ´ALLAHUMA Ãnni Sayim´ means ´ ALLAH be witness that im fasting so im controlling myself´
Ãts more than just food issue, and you start Ramadan with the intention of this, and you feel your body more healther after Ramadan, as if you were washing your own blood cells from inside.
And when Ãftar comes and you start eat, as deli said, it feels like Heaven, you would appreciate what you already have every day, and you would understand what others feel when they cant have them at other days
When you feel hungry during the day, you remember, and telling yourself, now you feel how poor would feel when he´s hungry? People at Somalia....etc
And you would discover another abilities in yourself, that you can survive with less than you thought you would.
Anyway, its joy and only Muslims would understand it.
Ãts hot in our countries, and we fast, dont eat and dont drink, and we wait for Ramadan from year to year eager for it to come, sad when its finished.
We love Ramadan, and we celebrate it as much as we can.
Ps: Post dedicated to handsom
Edited (8/24/2009) by CANLI
Edited (8/24/2009) by CANLI
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 05:39 pm |
Ãm not sure if you are asking about it, or just expressing /voicing your opinion ´which you said you dont understand the whole ´fasting´ part of Ramazan ´
Fasting is about controlling yourself..the ability of controlling yourself not just about fast over food
But you fast over everything, bad habits, desires, food, water...etc
And try to spend your time for the aim of worshipping ALLAH, not just praying and reading Quran, but worshipping ALLAH at any other form too
To think how to make another family happy, how to help the poor to enjoy Ãftar time as same as you enjoy it, how to try to make no one need anything at that month if we can
That with the hope that spirit will continue through the whole year not only in Ramadan.
How would we control ourselves, our temper and remember that we are fasting even at the crowded traffic when someone may be a cause of an expected accident, how would we control our temper and instead of shout and fight just blame and sort it out and say ´ALLAHUMA Ãnni Sayim´ means ´ ALLAH be witness that im fasting so im controlling myself´
Ãts more than just food issue, and you start Ramadan with the intention of this, and you feel your body more healther after Ramadan, as if you were washing your own blood cells from inside.
And when Ãfrat comes and you start eat, as deli said, it feels like Heaven, you would appreciate what you already have every day, and you would understand what others feel when they cant have them at other days
When you feel hungry during the day, you remember, and telling yourself, now you feel how poor would feel when he´s hungry? People at Somalia....etc
And you would discover another abilities in yourself, that you can survive with less than you thought you would.
Anyway, its joy and only Muslim would understand it.
Ãts hot in our countries, and we fast, dont eat and dont drink, and we wait for Ramadan from year to year eager for it to come, sad its finished.
We love Ramadan, and we celebrate it as much as we can.
Muslims are not the only people who understand this concept. Lent is very similar to Ramadan and although many christians do not celebrate it in the old ways (fasting, prayer and service) it can be a kind of enlightenment for the one participating. I think many religions participate in ritual fasting and do lots of charity work and I know some people who actually fast for the sake of fasting (some think it is healthy or cleansing) and many people I know donate to charities...these are not specifically muslim traits although I do respect that muslims do this, I would hope that the intentions of Ramadan are followed by all man/woman kind. I think deep spiritual reflection can be very fulfilling if it is done with the right intention.
Edited (8/24/2009) by Elisabeth
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24 Aug 2009 Mon 05:43 pm |
Ãm not sure if you are asking about it, or just expressing /voicing your opinion ´which you said you dont understand the whole ´fasting´ part of Ramazan ´
Fasting is about controlling yourself..the ability of controlling yourself not just about fast over food
But you fast over everything, bad habits, desires, food, water...etc
And try to spend your time for the aim of worshipping ALLAH, not just praying and reading Quran, but worshipping ALLAH at any other form too
To think how to make another family happy, how to help the poor to enjoy Ãftar time as same as you enjoy it, how to try to make no one need anything at that month if we can
That with the hope that spirit will continue through the whole year not only in Ramadan.
How would we control ourselves, our temper and remember that we are fasting even at the crowded traffic when someone may be a cause of an expected accident, how would we control our temper and instead of shout and fight just blame and sort it out and say ´ALLAHUMA Ãnni Sayim´ means ´ ALLAH be witness that im fasting so im controlling myself´
Ãts more than just food issue, and you start Ramadan with the intention of this, and you feel your body more healther after Ramadan, as if you were washing your own blood cells from inside.
And when Ãfrat comes and you start eat, as deli said, it feels like Heaven, you would appreciate what you already have every day, and you would understand what others feel when they cant have them at other days
When you feel hungry during the day, you remember, and telling yourself, now you feel how poor would feel when he´s hungry? People at Somalia....etc
And you would discover another abilities in yourself, that you can survive with less than you thought you would.
Anyway, its joy and only Muslim would understand it.
Ãts hot in our countries, and we fast, dont eat and dont drink, and we wait for Ramadan from year to year eager for it to come, sad its finished.
We love Ramadan, and we celebrate it as much as we can.
See I was right about the extra spritual lifting you get during ramadan..
And also, it is glorifying ´the fasting´ to me..
And that is wrong!!!!!
Possibly no washing of blood cells in reality..
It is all in your head..
Eating after a long time not eating woulf give the same joy..It is not related to religious activity at all..You can be AE, believe in pasta monster, starve yourself 15 hours and then eat , you get the same feeling basically.
Basically, do not forget the damage fasting might be causing to your internal organs..
(And also actually, with this spritiuality it is hard to see these people will stop childeren of 13-14-15 years old from fasting when those kids say they want to fast..Becasue they will feel obliged to fast with that glorifying feeling around them)
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