how about the barbaric kurdish terror against the Turks? You don`t want to see that because the kurds did your dirty jobs in your muslim genocide in Iraq, right? you want to see the pictures of the babies and civilians killed by your beloved kurdish terrorists?

Well 

Unfortunately, you are not very wrong with your above comments

70.000 people (´mainly kurdish´ )  died there, thousands of village names were changed, kurdish was banned and indeed, the very existance of Kurds were denied for a long time..

All these have documents here and there..

From ´Documentation of assimilation policies at state level´ to  decisions of EU human right court about burning villages/unlawful killings etc..

 Unfortunately ´denying these´ will not do any good to Turkey..Just more embarresment..

But the good thing is now WE are able to talk about these and ´what we have done´ is widely accepted in Turkey at the state level..(only ultra right wing racist party MHP is resisting )

yeah they are so assimilated that they don`t even carry out honor killings or live under their fascistic asiret rule anymore!

Trudy,

Your wording above is not clear to me. Can you clarify?

Titiz says he doesn´t think they speak Turkish in stores. So he means, according to me, they can speak Kurdish without any problem.

Do you mean they speak Turkish instead of Kurmanci in stores? Otherwise what is your objection to his statement if they don´t speak Turkish in stores as he said?

I told you to read up about your country, but apparently you haven´t! those terrorist acts are a RESULT of what you had done to them first, so YOU are the cause of this, and you should only blame yourself for it.

Traditionally you missed the point of my post and what I was responding to.

The answer that I was hoping for on your part, was: I really do not know anything about the West and I use words without fully understanding their meaning.

Good thing I didn´t hold my breath.

P.S. I´d be happy to get educated by you on Turkey, but for some reason your posts are never abundant in information, only emotionally charged name calling.

what about the thousands of destroyed villages, what about the tortures at home, in prisons, on the streets, what about the rapes and killings of women and children..

it is AMAZING that nobody in turkey talks about it!

This is a weird mentality Catwoman. If what you mean by "you" is an all-inclusive statement refering to anything from the government to the people and to all the institutions of a nation then you are talking about a plague - an epidemic for which there is no cure. Again in line with your thinking, the PKK terror is justified. That it claimed the lives of thousands of people, that it hampered progress in the region despite the desire of millions of peaceful Kurds have no weight in your line of thinking. We are all responsible for it and we must now bear the consequences. Good thing, we still have sane people around (unlike muhsin and you in this context) who are working on solutions rather than shoveling coal into the fire.

Tami said that he doesn´t think they speak Turkish in stores but - to me - the undertone was that they are not able to. As a tourist I found out they were, not to me - my Turkish nor my Kurmanci are sufficient enough to follow and/or have a complete conversation in but to others. I can hear the difference between them. I´ve heard salesmen spoke both languages.

I don´t see where the undertone was that they are not able to.

I don´ t see any "can" in the following sentence:

I don`t think anyone speak in Turkish in the stores in Diyarbakir.

To me it means they don´t speak Turkish (whether they can or not is a different matter).

I stayed in Diyarbakir for three months  in the early 80´s, as a guest of my uncle who had been  working in the City as a doctor  (doctors are required to serve in the East for a certain period of time before they can work elsewhere). My impression of Diyarbakir was a bit mixed. There used to be dwellings on one side of the town that resembled medieval towns where people led traditional lives in complete misery.  There were also nicer streets (one of them being Ofis) where civil servants and wealthier people lived. Since there was not much of economic activity other than craftsmanship and petty trade, civil servants were considered rich.

In the streets of Diyarbakir, there was a feeling of tension, a keen awareness of anything non-Kurdish. When you entered a shop where a few people had been talking to one another in their local Kurdish dialect, the conversation would immediately stop and people would turn all their attention to you. If you have a lighter complexion which is a tell-tale sign of your not belonging there, you would notice this more often.