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40.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 25 Jan 2013 Fri 07:54 pm

i dont know mehmet ali birand personally and i dont need to know yet and i am not interested in to know now.

as far as i know he did his job well as a journalist, at least reporting the news part. also i enjoyed his 32. day programs many years ago.

is he a thief, may be, it desnt requires us to ignore or reject him totally. we take the good parts and use it. we leave the bad parts to laws and now to god.

but if there is anything about news he reported, lets discuss it. For example you can say he reported such and such things but they are all lies, he was trying to mislead us...

41.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 25 Jan 2013 Fri 07:58 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

i dont know mehmet ali birand personally and i dont need to know yet and i am not interested in to know now.

as far as i know he did his job well as a journalist, at least reporting the news part. also i enjoyed his 32. day programs many years ago.

is he a thief, may be, it desnt requires us to ignore or reject him totally. we take the good parts and use it. we leave the bad parts to laws and now to god.

but if there is anything about news he reported, lets discuss it. For example you can say he reported such and such things but they are all lies, he was trying to mislead us...

+1

I doubt that he was a thief. He was framed by the army with LIES and spend many years in fear.

Nothing is worse that using people´s  death for flimsy political purposes.

You also dont need to be a religious person to respect a guy like MAB.

He was highly regarded by the people from his profession and well respected by the people in general.

  

42.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 25 Jan 2013 Fri 08:01 pm

 

Quoting vona

 

 

Most probably you do not know what are you talking about. I know what I talk about.

You are not an hadith expert nor a good muslim with a good knowledge of the religion and faith. Yes I am not a hadith expert. Should I be one to quote an hadith? You can´t decide if I am a good or bad muslim. Only Allah can decide this. I believe I have some knowledge.

The only sunnah is the sunnah of Allah. Yes and prophet teaches us that.

Here is the hadith that confirms it:

"Do not write down anything of me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it" (Sahih Muslim) Here is your answer: 

http://www.hafizonline.com/makale_tr/hadis/hadislerin_yazilmasi.htm

As for your hadith, I do not know if it is authentic or fabricated (it must be fabricated if it´s narrated by Abu Huraira) What are your proofs?, but let´s say it is authentic..

 

 اذكروا  موتاكم   بخير  - (remember-your deads- with benevolence) = ölülerinizi hayırla yâd ediniz - talk good things of your deads

 

 

The part you translated as "your deceaseds" is "mevtakum" and indicates the dead people only you knew personally. I don´t think you are allowed to talk after a person because you don´t know him presonally. Talking after a person is not a good behavor.

Not talking bad things of your deceased father, mother, aunt, uncle, et cetera, is understandable but why should we do the same with all the others? It is an ethical value.

Why should I pretend to like them just because they are dead? If they did not want my respect in life, they aint gonna get it now. Hadith doesn´t say you should respect them.

Should not we talk bad things also about those evil men like Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Stalin and many others just because they are dead?  I don´t think this hadith includes blasphemers(kafir). 

 

How could you explain this "according to your universal islamic ethical values"? Easily

 

 

Wow vona you impressed me. At least your questions were decent. I answered your questions only for this time. Don´t ask me more about theological issues because I quoted a hadith. I will not answer these kind of questions.(I can but I won´t) As you say I am not an expert and I can make mistakes  



Edited (1/25/2013) by gokuyum
Edited (1/25/2013) by gokuyum

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43.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 25 Jan 2013 Fri 08:08 pm

Let me recommend you a book I read recently. Yavuz Köktaş - Hadis ve Yorum. It is really a good book.

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44.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 07 Feb 2013 Thu 08:40 am

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

In my opinion, Mehmet Ali Birand one of the greatest, beloved journalist who lost his life yesterday is worth to be mentioned here.  

 

His last job was as news presenter in a private channel. I remember in my high school times, I was watching his documentary series programs called 32.Gün. The way he was presenting news, his optimism and peaceful messages was still echoes in my ears. Death is so weird thing. Knowing that the people you are used to hear or see everyday suddenly disappear is so saddening. 

Rest in Peace Mehmet Ali Abi.

Türk milletinin başı sağolsun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW....BELIEVE IT OR NOT !

http://www.kemalistler.org/emin-colasan-ab-vatandasi-belcikali-mehmet-ali.html

 

 



Edited (2/7/2013) by AlphaF

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