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6290.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 12:05 am

If I called someone ´a liar´ repeatedly I would have been reported to admins straight away and at least 2/3 people would be accusing me for it, but when someone calls me a liar it is a different matter..

Yeah yeah..

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6291.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 12:23 am

I´ve been here long enough to see many personal fights. I suppose it´s normal to get carried away when two contrasting views clash. However, what I find fascinating is how come every time TheHandsom posts an opinion or an article, there´s sudden hatered of him among Turkish users, most of whom, generally never insult other users.

I don´t think anyone but TheHandsom has had his origin questioned, hidden agenda insinuated and his senses insulted in a straightforward way; not ot mention being told to shut up numerous times.

Not that he always responds in a polite and calm manner. But I´m curious why his fellow-countymen get so agitated by his posts.

6292.       oeince
582 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 12:36 am

DD i don´t want to begin a new conflict. Please thehandsom you don´t do that too!

But if you wonder the answer, just check the 6th to 8th page of the women cannot merry man they want thread.

6293.       bydand
755 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 12:44 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

If I called someone ´a liar´ repeatedly I would have been reported to admins straight away and at least 2/3 people would be accusing me for it, but when someone calls me a liar it is a different matter..

Yeah yeah..

Tough Handsom... it was you who ridiculed me about the weak moderation.  {#emotions_dlg.lol}

 

6294.       bydand
755 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 12:47 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I´ve been here long enough to see many personal fights. I suppose it´s normal to get carried away when two contrasting views clash. However, what I find fascinating is how come every time TheHandsom posts an opinion or an article, there´s sudden hatered of him among Turkish users, most of whom, generally never insult other users.

I don´t think anyone but TheHandsom has had his origin questioned, hidden agenda insinuated and his senses insulted in a straightforward way; not ot mention being told to shut up numerous times.

Not that he always responds in a polite and calm manner. But I´m curious why his fellow-countymen get so agitated by his posts.

 

You reap what you sow.  Ancient proverb.  {#emotions_dlg.bigsmile}

6295.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 12:52 am

 

Quoting bydand

 

Tough Handsom... it was you who ridiculed me about the weak moderation.  {#emotions_dlg.lol}

 

 

Ha ha.. Good one..

I know.. That is god´s punishment for me, I guess.. lol

 

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6296.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 01:04 am

Bydand, I actually got a different impression. It seems to me, the dislike for him stems from the fact that he dares to criticise his country really hard and most Turkish users try to ridicule him rather than his ideas. Anyway, seems he was right in the "Women cannot marry men..." thread after all

Oeince - nobody was arguing in the thread but you. The way we debate here is not about personal comments and suggestions to see a shrink or having an inferiority complex. We exchange ideas - if you prove your point, fine. If you don´t - tough luck. You got angry at Vineyard because you found his comment rude, but the moment you realised it was aimed at Handsom, not you, you no longer found it rude but rather justified. How fair is that? If it was rude to you, isn´t it rude towards everybody else?

Oh, and I have proven my point in that thread. Turns out I am not a liar, nor have I twisted Alameda´s words. Not to mention the fact that I did not insult her. Don´t you think you owe me an apology for calling me guilty of all 3?

There´s a huge difference between disagreeing with someone´s opinions and insulting this person. I somehow feel your hostility towards me and I think I know which thread it is coming from. I am sorry if you feel I wrongly accused you of plagiarism, but I just expressed my doubt as to your being the author, judging by your level of English.

6297.       oeince
582 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 01:19 am

DD, i feel no hostility towards you. Absolutely no! I rather like you, and even more when you don´t attack people with deficient info! You are my old friend. And you were always a good one! I want to use my chance to celebrate your new kid! I am really happy to hear that.

However, thats true we think differently in a lot of issues, as well as the last thread issue and my reaction. I didn´t like Vineyard´s words in order i thought, he defends the attacker. Not because he turns to be rude. And after i understood the issue, i corrected those. And i told i think the same way with him. This is rather called consistency.

But please just check from the page 6 to 8. He was always like that and even more. Thats why i react him hardly. Because, i think he deserves that.

 

 

6298.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 01:34 am

Thanks for congratulations But I still think you pushed it. I don´t think you were right suggesting all these bad things. It didn´t bring anything into the discussion about the subject, nor did it bring you two closer to reaching an agreement. TC charter says personal issues should be dealt with in private. True we often break rules here, but the exchange between you two was way beyond civilised.

I know TheH for a long time on this site, if you see his number of posts you understand he´s an experienced user. I don´t think it was necessary for you to get into a debate that had nothing to do with you and do backseat moderating. That´s my opinion!

I´m not defending Handsom, that´s not my job. I´m just saying that you pushed it. he didn´t give in and it ended in an unpleasant exchange. Next time, also, please try to avoid inciting anger. If you don´t like somebody´s post - answer to the point and if you cannot prove somebody wrong, but can´t ignore it, report him to the mods.

I don´t think TheHandsom had a point thinking Vineyards insulted him. After all, he was talking about facts crucial to the discussion. Still, it doesn´t change the fact that he didn´t deserve to read your words to him. It reminded me of playground fights...

I´m sure you know that you attacked him first in this thread. And you were wrong.

Now, where´s my apology? lol



Edited (10/8/2010) by Daydreamer

6299.       oeince
582 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 01:42 am

Anyway, lets agree to disagree ha? Because I think you supposed to apologize from alameda.

And i insist on my claim. Please read women.... threads pages 6 to 8.

Have a good night.



Edited (10/8/2010) by oeince [add the missing idea]

6300.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Oct 2010 Fri 02:32 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Thanks for congratulations But I still think you pushed it. I don´t think you were right suggesting all these bad things. It didn´t bring anything into the discussion about the subject, nor did it bring you two closer to reaching an agreement. TC charter says personal issues should be dealt with in private. True we often break rules here, but the exchange between you two was way beyond civilised.

I know TheH for a long time on this site, if you see his number of posts you understand he´s an experienced user. I don´t think it was necessary for you to get into a debate that had nothing to do with you and do backseat moderating. That´s my opinion!

I´m not defending Handsom, that´s not my job. I´m just saying that you pushed it. he didn´t give in and it ended in an unpleasant exchange. Next time, also, please try to avoid inciting anger. If you don´t like somebody´s post - answer to the point and if you cannot prove somebody wrong, but can´t ignore it, report him to the mods.

I don´t think TheHandsom had a point thinking Vineyards insulted him. After all, he was talking about facts crucial to the discussion. Still, it doesn´t change the fact that he didn´t deserve to read your words to him. It reminded me of playground fights...

I´m sure you know that you attacked him first in this thread. And you were wrong.

Now, where´s my apology? lol

 

You may not think Vineyards did not insult me but it started with

vineyards says 05 Oct 2010 Tue 11:06 pm:

I believe there is nothing wrong with the reaction thehandom has shown. All is in line with the saying:
People with little brains talk about other people.

I did not answer him at all..I was not arguing with him at all!!

later on he reminds his innuendo

06 Oct 2010 Wed 06:15 am
I suggest you read my message again. There might be an innuendo hidden somewhere.

I still did not answer him..

and he quotes something from my post and says

07 Oct 2010 Thu 04:40 am
Hey man. You sound like Captain America.


Then I start answering and asking why he is getting personal..

====

Maybe I am over sensitive. Maybe I am not..

But anyway.. It is tiring for sure..

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