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-ki and -in suffixes
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1.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Aug 2006 Sun 05:20 pm

My understanding is that the -ki suffix is used as a pronoun with the object being the stem of the formed word.

For example - are these correct?
evdekiler - the people in the house
dışarıdankı - the one from outside
kalemi arkadaşımkı - the pen of my friend
kırdakılar - people from rural areas

But today I have seen "şimdiki hava" which I take to mean "the weather at this moment". But in this sentence why does şimdi take the -ki suffix and not just the -in genitive suffix?

Is there a rule about when -ki is used as a possessive and when -in should be used?

2.       scalpel
1472 posts
 06 Aug 2006 Sun 06:32 pm


3.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 06 Aug 2006 Sun 09:48 pm

Quoting bod:

For example - are these correct?
evdekiler - the people in the house
dışarıdankı - the one from outside
kalemi arkadaşımkı - the pen of my friend
kırdakılar - people from rural areas



evdekiler - ok
dışardaki - without n, and "-ki" is always "-ki", never changes to "-kı"
arkadaşımın kalemi - there is no "-ki"
kırdakiler - it is also "-ki" and so plural suffix is "-ler"

4.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Aug 2006 Mon 01:57 am

Quoting caliptrix:

dışardaki - without n, and "-ki" is always "-ki", never changes to "-kı"



Oh - another suffix that disobeys vowel harmony........
How many more will I find???

So far I know of three:
-iyor
-abil
-ki


Are there any more?

5.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 Aug 2006 Mon 03:24 am

ki takes only 2 shapes

ki and kü ,

i asked,and they said because it is a new suffix !!!!

That means it is going to be old someday and will take the 4 shpes of the vowel harmony rules ???

ALLAHu alem

6.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 07 Aug 2006 Mon 05:38 am

kü?

can you please give us some examples?

7.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 Aug 2006 Mon 06:03 am

ok,here

Salı günkü toplantımız çok verimliydi
Dünkü yemek midemi bozdu
Bugünkü gençler daha özgür düşÃ¼nüyor

8.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 07 Aug 2006 Mon 10:10 am

Quoting CANLI:

ok,here

Salı günkü toplantımız çok verimliydi
Dünkü yemek midemi bozdu
Bugünkü gençler daha özgür düşÃ¼nüyor

Thank you so much!

9.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Aug 2006 Mon 12:41 pm

Quoting CANLI:

ok,here

Salı günkü toplantımız çok verimliydi
Dünkü yemek midemi bozdu
Bugünkü gençler daha özgür düşÃ¼nüyor



Could it that it only takes the -kü form after days?

10.       scalpel
1472 posts
 07 Aug 2006 Mon 03:10 pm



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