Men CHEAT all over the world! not just turks...latin men cheat as much as them so one can't generalize ....there are some loyal ones but very few! (I haven't met many of them )....as someone said , if you want a serious relationship with a turk DO look outside the tourism area and please, before getting involved with someone deeply DO know him well...some girls say they fell in love and they don't even know his background!!!! or what is worse, they can't communicate well , they can't even understand each other and they say they're in love....this is attraction only...let's be frank but my advice is : although love can make us blind, do not drop your brain and be CAREFUL!
Yes, turkish men are charming...extremely charming but it doesn't mean that ALL OF THEM are trustworthy .
Selamlar,
Dilara.

Canli, I think that qdemir was just sceptical and wanted to say that a person's age shouldn't be the reason to trust him. I don't think he meant to say directly 'don't trust your bf, I know he's cheating'. Moreover, I think it's a great thing if you are capable to be critical of yourself and people of your own kind, not just others (which is the common tendency of the 'us vs them' thinking). I think that qdemir has a good point in his posts, I think that he's trying to be realistic - probably knowing many guys who cut loose . He often emphasized the contradiction between the behavior and talks of the Turkish boys in question. They send poems to their girls but use no punctuation and don't make the effort to learn the girl's language. I know that when a person is infatuated, he/she idealizes and justifies such things, but if you think about it - when a person cares about someone, he/she would make a little bit more effort to communicate with his/her lover.

yes,i can see your point catwoman,and his point too,and i didn't say he is totally wrong,
İ read the translation forums myself,and i wonder how can it be love with no communication,even minimum level,
As i said in my previous post,
Love need things to support it so we can call it love,
You cann't just see someone,close your eyes and open them and booff,you are in love !
But my point is, i see lots of criticism of the Turk themselves,not just qdemir,maybe he got his point which i am with it too,but cann't generalize it tho ,but to me,as a stranger,when reading all this makes me wonder,

İsn't there anything good at all there ???

Sure it is a great thing if you are capable to be critical of yourself and people of your own kind, not just others
But i would like to see the good sides too along with the bad ones

And finally, a tip for the girls,

Love is to pay effort,but not just one sided effort

Good luck to you all

Canli, definitely . But why are you insisting on hearing the good sides right at this moment? To make the really terrible truth sound better? You wanna hear now about the good Turkish guys? We have some on this site, you read their posts every day.
And honestly, most people we see on this site met their bf-s on vacation, so obviously we'll hear more about the bad types.

It is not just MEN who cheat all over the world it is also WOMEN! and we have whole series of programmes about it in the UK and I dont just mean cheat in marriage or relationships but in all areas of life. There is always someone out their ready to cheat on you if you are vunerable or naive enough to let them.

I am getting slightly fed up with this notion that all Turkish men cheat.

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catwoman,i read the posts everyday,but how about those who doesn't read it everyday ?
And happen to read this thread ?
İ want to hear the good sides too because it ia really exist

But about that thread you know what the truth is ?
The terrible truth?
İn my opinion ,that is girls are fooling themselves,

And what is really the learned lesson ?

That is girls shouldn't fool themselves,then complain about men are fooling them

Men are men all over the world,can you tell me,any girl can fall in love with a man in her home land without talking with him ?!

Why should it be different with Turkish men ?
They are men too not angels!

So how did they fall in love then ?

At least,there should be minimum communication,then as any realationship,you can judge it later
But the (A) here is missing,and that is communication,
So you can call this love ?
What kind of love is it ?
And girls believing it ?

Girls are fooling themselves and allowing the boys to do so,so now we blame only the boys ?

İ am not defending boys too by the way,but boys trying with girls all over the world,not only in Turkia,in their home land too

But girls don't give them the chance to fool them back there, why giving them the chance now ?

+1 (sorry Elisa!!). Well written Canli, I agree with you completely.

Reading all these translations requests makes me wonder if we fully understand the meaning of the word "LOVE" at all.
I can't imagine to love somebody without communication, I want to understand how one can love somebody just seeing him/her for limitted time(holiday). Maybe we can call this falling in love but not love. Maybe it will develop into love but it needs time to get there.
The second thing I do not understand why we always talk about turkish guys. Don't we have any girls "in fault"?
Let's ask the guys.
I don't want to offend anybody, just courious to know.

Again, I agree with you completely Bliss. A wicked thought struck me the other day.... I wonder if it has ever happened that two girls asking for translations here have both been speaking to the same guy....

Have same thought all the time