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50.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 10 Sep 2006 Sun 05:32 pm

Quoting Rain:

anywy. i wanna go pee





sorry guys that was funny...its late here ok...

51.       aenigma x
0 posts
 10 Sep 2006 Sun 05:32 pm

Quoting Rain:



I don't think anyone believes Turkish men are bad, and I don't think this discussion has anything to do with religion. Personally, I don't think Turkish men are any more good or bad than any other country. As to Turkish respecting women, I agree. But I also think that sometimes that "respect" can also be interpreted as patronising and by treating women as "special" instead of "equals" they are in danger of being labelled as sexist, or even worse, dominating.

52.       Lalecan
19 posts
 10 Sep 2006 Sun 06:38 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Rain:



I don't think anyone believes Turkish men are bad, and I don't think this discussion has anything to do with religion. Personally, I don't think Turkish men are any more good or bad than any other country. As to Turkish respecting women, I agree. But I also think that sometimes that "respect" can also be interpreted as patronising and by treating women as "special" instead of "equals" they are in danger of being labelled as sexist, or even worse, dominating.



like everywhere I think...we're generalizing too much : also italian men cheat, and women also...they're not cheating because they're turkish!

53.       catwoman
8933 posts
 10 Sep 2006 Sun 07:07 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Girls are fooling themselves and allowing the boys to do so,so now we blame only the boys ?



it's interesting , so you're saying taht it's ok for the guys to cheat when they have the opportunity because it's the girls' fault that they allowed them! I know you're not completely blaming the girls, but the boys sure deserve the criticism. also, I love statements like 'men are men' (thus, we can't expect basic human characteristics of them, since they got stuck somewhere along the evolutionary development lol) ... interesting that it's women who say it (example of women setting themselves up for trouble?? ). it doesn't really matter if the girls or boys are thinking about REAL love, what matters is that they intentionally lie.
yeah, girls are asking for trouble if they only wanna listen about those great lovers and happy endings.

54.       teaschip
3870 posts
 10 Sep 2006 Sun 07:40 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting Rain:



I don't think anyone believes Turkish men are bad, and I don't think this discussion has anything to do with religion. Personally, I don't think Turkish men are any more good or bad than any other country. As to Turkish respecting women, I agree. But I also think that sometimes that "respect" can also be interpreted as patronising and by treating women as "special" instead of "equals" they are in danger of being labelled as sexist, or even worse, dominating.



I agree with you 100%

55.       JFraser
22 posts
 10 Sep 2006 Sun 07:42 pm

I have to say that I'm tired of all this negative talk about Turkish men...it's getting a tad tedious now don’t you think? Personally I think that you have to be careful and keep your eyes open in any relationship, not just men from Turkey.

If a Turkish boy (or girl)is asking for money, phones, clothes etc., then use your initiative, like you would do anywhere else in the world.

(I hope you are ok 'ILovehim'...I know it's hard but try to think of it as a lucky escape...you could have married the guy)

56.       teaschip
3870 posts
 10 Sep 2006 Sun 07:59 pm

Quoting JFraser:

I have to say that I'm tired of all this negative talk about Turkish men...it's getting a tad tedious now don’t you think? Personally I think that you have to be careful and keep your eyes open in any relationship, not just men from Turkey.

If a Turkish boy (or girl)is asking for money, phones, clothes etc., then use your initiative, like you would do anywhere else in the world.

(I hope you are ok 'ILovehim'...I know it's hard but try to think of it as a lucky escape...you could have married the guy)



If I remembered quite frankly the original post was about her being warned about Turkish men in the tourism business cheating and that's exactly what happen to her. Of course there is going to be negative feedback given. But I think people are just giving their own experiences here. Well yes of course different men of all nationialities and women too also cheat. But based on the original post, that is why you are seeing the negative feedback. If her post was about Turkish men being great lovers, then most of the responses would be positive.

57.       JFraser
22 posts
 10 Sep 2006 Sun 08:26 pm

Yes of course, you are right, you are naturally going to get negative replies about Turkish men in this post. I guess that I'm just a little saddened that most of the talk is always about how bad Turkish men are and you don’t hear a lot about the good men and happy endings...

58.       heidilovesosman
208 posts
 10 Sep 2006 Sun 08:28 pm

yeah turkish guys are great lovers lets talk about how great they are not how bad they are cos all guys are the same i guess no one is perfect!!!!

59.       CANLI
5084 posts
 11 Sep 2006 Mon 12:15 am

catwoman,read my post again,i didn't say it is ok for guys to cheat,
We here are talking to the girls,not the boys,you cann't control the boys behaviours,but you are telling your opinion to the girls
İ said men are men all over the world,i didn't mean again it is ok for them to cheat,but
İ meant,there is no difference between Turkish men,or Americans men,or Britich men,or Egyptians men,men are same all over the world
There are the goods and the bads
You cann't generalize by saying all Turkish men are bad or all Turkish men are good,

For god sake they are men not angels,nor deviles,same like all men

Aren't men trying all the ways with girls,in home land as much as all over the world ?they are always doing and will never stop really

You may like it or not but it is happening this way,they try all ways,honest ones and dishonest ones too,and my point is ,NOT only Turkish men

But here,the girls are responsible too,you cann't say they are not
We are not weak creatures,have lake of minds,can be fooled easily
We gave that chance to be fooled alright

Ok,he lied to her,that is not good,and he shouldn't,i am with you... so ?
We leave it this way,hoping we meet only the good men who are honourable enough and won't cheat on us ?
Or we have our own brain to use,and defend ourselves too before we got hurt ?

Where are the girls brains ?
Why didn't they give it even some thought ?

My God,they don't even communicate !
They cann't speak to each other
So they really believe the boys love them ??

Maybe he can like her,and she likes him too,that is acceptable,
And from here they try to find a way to communicate,and build a relation,but LOVE with no communication??!!
That is a bit hard

Again,my point,not that it is ok boys cheats,
But that girls should look after themselves,and give it a little thought first then judge

Before girls look for a happy ending,they must make a good start first

60.       catwoman
8933 posts
 11 Sep 2006 Mon 12:28 am

canli, well said! although you sound a little bit angry...

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