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110.       qdemir
813 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:29 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

You missed the point...

Virginity is important and expected of a lady in societies where the father of, at least the first born, is important.



Do you think any man having had premarital sex has the right to expect of the other side to be virgin?

111.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:34 pm

For "any man", nothing is important.. my discussion is beyond that..

My advise to ladies of this group is to avoid "any man", if they can....

112.       aenigma x
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 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:36 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

FIDELITY BY CHOICE OR BY FORCE

Fidelity used to be a requirement from both partners, in a relation.

It now seems optional in highly civilised societies.

It will not surprise me at all, if infidelity is enforced in near future.



Sorry to disappoint you, but infidelity was VERY common for hundreds of years in the highly "civilised" societies in history. The reason was usually because the marriages were purely for capital or political gain.

Of my married friends thoughout the world, I do not know of any who would consider infidelity acceptable.

113.       qdemir
813 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:40 pm

114.       aenigma x
0 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:40 pm

Faithfulness, honesty, integrity and loyality are far more important in a marriage then enforced virginity before marriage,in my opinion.

115.       aenigma x
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 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:41 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Quoting AlphaF:


It will not surprise me at all, if infidelity is enforced in near future.



It has already.



How on earth do you qualify that statement, Qdemir? Nobody here is suggesting that it is RIGHT to commit adultery. My point is that it is not dependent on marrying a virgin!

116.       qdemir
813 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:41 pm

117.       qdemir
813 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:42 pm

Quoting AlphaF:


It will not surprise me at all, if infidelity is enforced in near future.



It has already been. May be it hasn't been enforced, but encouraged.

118.       CANLI
5084 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:43 pm

ok now i have questions,

We are Eastern too,and its forbidden as in religion and SHAME as in tradition to have sex outside marrige for both men and woman.
İ mean none married men cant talk about having sex and be proud about it among others.

So,my question is,
İs it acceptable there for Turkish men to have sex outside marrige and not acceptable for women ?
İ mean,do men talk about it as it is normal to have sexual affair but at same time its shame for women ?!
Or is it not acceptable at all in society ?

119.       aenigma x
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 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:43 pm

Quoting qdemir:

Quoting AlphaF:


It will not surprise me at all, if infidelity is enforced in near future.



It has already been. May be it hasn't been enforced, but encouraged.



Encouraged? By Whom? Who on earth encourages adultery? It is not acceptable in any society. It is a breaking of trust and commitment.

When I talk of "sex outside marriage" I mean "sex when you are not married"

120.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 05:55 pm

Virginity in a lady of young age, about to be married, is a virtue.

There are situations in which a gentleman of quality may consider lack of this quality, in the lady of his choice, to be acceptable. Prophet Muhammed himself made such a choice, in his first marriage.

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