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70.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:06 am

[quote aenigme]

Yeah, right. There're a lot of relatively modern people who do these. I think it's more because the girl wants to keep herself virgin because if the girl lets, the man wouldn't mind it.

71.       femme_fatal
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 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:06 am

anything in this subject doesnt make sense to me.

i do not have a problem with virginity.
well, lets say its good to be virgin (for ethics, moral's sake), OK.
but how about boys then? why arent the controlled or checked?
this thing doesnt work to both sexes, it humiliates only one sex representatives.

72.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:08 am

Quoting femme_fatal:


but how about boys then? why arent the controlled or checked?
this thing doesnt work to both sexes, it humiliates only one sex representatives.



Then who to blame for this femme_fatal? God? Yeah, God is sexist

73.       femme_fatal
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 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:10 am

Quoting mltm:

Quoting femme_fatal:


but how about boys then? why arent the controlled or checked?
this thing doesnt work to both sexes, it humiliates only one sex representatives.



Then who to blame for this femme_fatal? God? Yeah, God is sexist


society
oops forgot to add: traditions made up by societies

74.       aenigma x
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 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:10 am

Quoting mltm:

[quote aenigme]

Yeah, right. There're a lot of relatively modern people who do these. I think it's more because the girl wants to keep herself virgin because if the girl lets, the man wouldn't mind it.



Exactly Meltem. So, without wanting to get too explicit, why would a girl think its ok to have done pretty much every kind of sexual act except penetrative? (I wont even mention the men because they are a rule unto themselves)!

75.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:10 am


And the real moral person is the one who does not need to be checked in order to be moral. So, a man as well very well can keep himself virgin if he sees this as a part of his ethics.

76.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:11 am

For female and male =
This is a truth in Türkiye.This is a tradition and a custom and a very deep ethical value and a Community Culture….
Culture rule the community.
Marriages (love) requires two people only according to Turkish Traditional Culture…
İt is a honor according to Turkish people.
Virginity is precondition among youngs in Türkiye..

77.       femme_fatal
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 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:12 am

Quoting mltm:


And the real moral person is the one who does not need to be checked in order to be moral. So, a man as well very well can keep himself virgin if he sees this as a part of his ethics.


this is naive

78.       aenigma x
0 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:13 am

Quoting mltm:


And the real moral person is the one who does not need to be checked in order to be moral. So, a man as well very well can keep himself virgin if he sees this as a part of his ethics.



I really do believe there are men who follow this rule and because their faith is so deep that they know that they cannot cheat Allah, even if they can cheat doctors. We cannot label all men the same way.

What I really hate is the hyprocracy of the half-believers!

PLEASE NOTE: Femme and I DO disagree sometimes

79.       karekin04
565 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:17 am

Quote:

why would a girl think its ok to have done pretty much every kind of sexual act except penetrative?

Exaclty!!! I had a few friends that were "virgins" too, and they were by far more (without getting to explicate)"experianced" then me by the time I had sex

80.       mltm
3690 posts
 13 Jul 2007 Fri 01:19 am

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting mltm:

[quote aenigme]

Yeah, right. There're a lot of relatively modern people who do these. I think it's more because the girl wants to keep herself virgin because if the girl lets, the man wouldn't mind it.



Exactly Meltem. So, without wanting to get too explicit, why would a girl think its ok to have done pretty much every kind of sexual act except penetrative? (I wont even mention the men because they are a rule unto themselves)!



Because these girls fear that being not virgin could make them seen as a less decent girl by their future husband. Probably a lot of them do not mind a lot having sex before marriage and their families will not make a deal out of it very much, their families will not even know if they're virgin or not because probably the husband they will get married will not give her back to her family because she's "faulty" or her family will not make a virginity test on her but anyway these girls want to be seen " a good girl", "a decent girl" when they meet the man they marry, they will probably never tell the man that they have done sex or even they have got intimide with a man before him, because even if this man would marry a girl that's not a virgin, he always considers a virgin girl more decent. So, that's about it.

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