Welcome
Login:   Pass:     Register - Forgot Password - Resend Activation

Turkish Class Forums / Turkey

Turkey

Add reply to this discussion
Moderators: libralady, sonunda
Fasting
(58 Messages in 6 pages - View all)
1 [2] 3 4 5 6
10.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 04:29 pm

Ohh,i understand now.

You know something MrX,
İ have a relative who live in a western country,the building they live in almost all of it contain a Turkish neighbors
And they are so keen to fast Ramazan more than anything,even society don't force them by traditions,or customs,its not a Muslim country there.

And they are keeping their traditions too,my relatives told me you just love to deal with those people,and respect them so much.

So i think its something in the heart really,no matter where you are.

11.       MrX67
2540 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 04:33 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Ohh,i understand now.

You know something MrX,
İ have a relative who live in a western country,the building they live in almost all of it contain a Turkish neighbors
And they are so keen to fast Ramazan more than anything,even society don't force them by traditions,or customs,its not a Muslim country there.

And they are keeping their traditions too,my relatives told me you just love to deal with those people,and respect them so much.

So i think its something in the heart really,no matter where you are.

i totally agree with you dear Canlı,everythings start with self respect and to love urself with what you are and todo things by be willing never forced.But thats a real social and economical changes effecting cultures,traditions,beliefs etc...So when we look at to events with science glasses we see things not the same as how they seen sometime

12.       uroojikram
6 posts
 06 Oct 2006 Fri 05:08 pm

well i m not a turk,but i m muslim and i fast.

for all answers i agree with CANLI'S post

it is ot mandatory to fast for pregnant women--its upto ones own will and power

same is for ill peoples.
rather if we dont fast then it is mandatory for us to give a desires amount of money and food to poors

13.       qdemir
812 posts
 07 Oct 2006 Sat 01:08 am

Fasting is the single worship done without any hypocrisy.
Some other worships might be done with some hypocrisy or outward show, but not fasting as nobody is left hungary during the hours of fasting with the intent of outward show. He can eat and drink when he is by himself. That's why God says the reward of fasting would be big and someone who is fasting would be as innocent as the day he was born on contidition that he abstains from committing other sins during fasting. Fasting reminds people of the real owner of all kinds of food and drink and makes them perceive what a great blessing eating and drinking is and understand the hungary and the need helping them.

14.       libralady
5152 posts
 08 Oct 2006 Sun 10:48 pm

Thanks for your answers. I know what MrX means - I think that social pressures one way or another account for a lot these days, but I also think that people do things for their own self satisfaction (if you can call it that). I know muslims that do and do not fast. My son's girlfriend is muslim and she does not but her father does.

For us (those of us for whom it is not part of our culture - I wont say religion!) it is difficult to understand, not the reasons, but how you can physically abstain from eating and drinking for what seems to me a long time!

I totally respect your fortitude and admire you all for it, whilst in this day and age many cultures and beliefs are being eroded.

15.       susie k
1330 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 02:07 pm

16.       MrX67
2540 posts
 09 Oct 2006 Mon 03:23 pm

Quoting libralady:

Thanks for your answers. I know what MrX means - I think that social pressures one way or another account for a lot these days, but I also think that people do things for their own self satisfaction (if you can call it that). I know muslims that do and do not fast. My son's girlfriend is muslim and she does not but her father does.

For us (those of us for whom it is not part of our culture - I wont say religion!) it is difficult to understand, not the reasons, but how you can physically abstain from eating and drinking for what seems to me a long time!

I totally respect your fortitude and admire you all for it, whilst in this day and age many cultures and beliefs are being eroded.[/QUOTE its really nice wear poverty cardigan and melting in absence cauldronfor bring up our desires,greeds,lust,arrogance etc...

17.       KeithL
1455 posts
 11 Oct 2006 Wed 10:55 am

Quoting KeithL:

I think less peopel fast in istanbul than in the samller cities and villages. I would say well less than 50% of the peopel in istanbul fast. This isnt a criticism, just my opinion.



Since ramazan began, I have been to Nautilus, Capital, Profilo, Cevahir, Akmerkiz and Kanyon among other places in the city. The foodcourts to me seem just as full now (before iftar) as they are the rest of the year. Another unscientific way to guess is to look out the window at 4.30 am and see how many lights are on. I live in Fulya (very conservative) and there are not as many lights on as you would think.

18.       libralady
5152 posts
 11 Oct 2006 Wed 02:40 pm

Quote:

Since ramazan began, I have been to Nautilus, Capital, Profilo, Cevahir, Akmerkiz and Kanyon among other places in the city. The foodcourts to me seem just as full now (before iftar) as they are the rest of the year. Another unscientific way to guess is to look out the window at 4.30 am and see how many lights are on. I live in Fulya (very conservative) and there are not as many lights on as you would think.



Interesting scientific experiment!!

19.       normanb
26 posts
 11 Oct 2006 Wed 03:30 pm

I think fasting, like most things is a personal choice.

A lot of people that do fast, don't loose weight, because as soon as they hear the gunshot or whatever in the evening they then proceed to eat and eat.

I do not eat breakfast or meals during the the day all year, but overcompensate on an evening, with the result I am overweight.

In some cases though, people from certain villages or areas do fast because of local pressure or seem to be fasting when in public but not in private. I am not sure of the percentages, but I think it will differ throughout villages and regions. At a guess I would say 60 or 70% where I am.

If you are in a town or village you will see quite a few people not fasting because although the country has a Muslim population, they do not all practice it devotely, in the same way as some Christians.

Also bear in mind that a lot of people sleep here midday.

Myself, I applaud someone who can fast, and hold to it, as a sign of their convictiction.

You do see people that seem happier and contented after Ramazan is over, wether spiritual or mental I do not know, but you can see it.


20.       aslan2
507 posts
 12 Oct 2006 Thu 08:01 am

Quoting KeithL:

Quoting KeithL:

I think less peopel fast in istanbul than in the samller cities and villages. I would say well less than 50% of the peopel in istanbul fast. This isnt a criticism, just my opinion.



Since ramazan began, I have been to Nautilus, Capital, Profilo, Cevahir, Akmerkiz and Kanyon among other places in the city. The foodcourts to me seem just as full now (before iftar) as they are the rest of the year. Another unscientific way to guess is to look out the window at 4.30 am and see how many lights are on. I live in Fulya (very conservative) and there are not as many lights on as you would think.


Having been to those places, you shouldn't come up with such conclusions. That's not a good way to get good stats. You should choose your samples better.
Where I work (more than 100 people), counting the numbers of people having their lunch in the cafeteria, I would say 80%. I talked to a friend about this, who said he's the only one (~80 people) in the company who doesn't fast. That example gives you 98% maybe.
I also have been to such places and I think there are less people nowadays in the foodcourts.

And by the way, are you usually up at 4.30? Or was it because to count the windows?

(58 Messages in 6 pages - View all)
1 [2] 3 4 5 6
Add reply to this discussion




Turkish Dictionary
Turkish Chat
Open mini chat
New in Forums
Intermediate (B1) to upper-intermediate (B...
qdemir: ...
Why yer gördüm but yeri geziyorum
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, makes perfect sense!
Etmeyi vs etmek
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Görülmez vs görünmiyor
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, very well explained!
Içeri and içeriye
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Present continous tense
HaydiDeer: Got it, thank you!
Hic vs herhangi, degil vs yok
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Rize Artvin Airport Transfer - Rize Tours
rizetours: Dear Guest; In order to make your Black Sea trip more enjoyable, our c...
What does \"kabul ettiğini\" mean?
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Random Pictures of Turkey
Most liked