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Thread: Let The West Talk !

2851.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 07:33 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

But not having traditions,and if there is,then not respecting it,not being kind with same members of the family,worshiping the material world,and not careing of anyone except yourself,and if you are a bit good,you care about your small family as well.
Living just for yourself,and not caring about others,looking for your own interests even if its going to harm the others.
Not helping anyone,and just mind in your own business.
Swearing,using bad words,and that makes you cool.



Sorry Canli, but you have a pretty twisted view about the "west"!! If this thread is just another excuse for bashing "westerners" and having sanctimonous opinons about your own culture, then I really don't think there is much point in trying to exchange ideas on this website .

Predicting now it will get blocked.... lol



AEnigma III,what i said here is the common ideas about the West as we see it in the Media
Not everyone in here is lucky to travel and see otherwise,or to pay effort and google to find things are already brought to him in the easy way ,TV.

You know me,i guess , lol
İ try to understand what is arround me before i make a conclusion.
And we brought up on some conclusions,im changing them to myself at least,and by your help to anyone else reading this.
This thread is not about the East and West,its just about the West.
İ just state what the East see,and ask you to tell us the truth about it from what you really live in it.

Anladın mı ?



Thread: Let The West Talk !

2852.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 07:25 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:



You know,i didnt know it,but come to think of it now,we really dont know anything about Britsh ,except Hugh Grant of course
And only old movies,where family sitting in the living room,everyone to his own business,some reading book,some sewing something,and no one talking to each other
Very boring and very cold !

We,or maybe let me say, i didnt know all what you've said about "front room" and eating fish and chips on a Friday...ect
All we know about britsh as persons,that they are cold,and cant get the joke 'no offence'
İ see you here more than a year now,and you seems as a warm person,and get the joke too

See? get what i mean ? we dont know you,but we judge you by the tools you are giving to us.
Which seems was not all true.
So if you can tell us what the Media didnt say for being the norm to it,would be great,because we dont see that norm.



Thread: Let The West Talk !

2853.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 07:01 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Canli, I think there are as many differences between the people in 'western' countries as there are between people in 'eastern' countries. And even within countries itself things are not the same. My very tiny country has several different cultures, people in the north (mostly protestant) do other things than those in the south (mostly catholic) - only 200 kms away from each other.

Second, what is east and what is west? Is Japan west? Geographically for me it's not, but they always say its a western country. Well it is very very different from mine. The same for let's say Peru, geographically it is west but I don't feel much resemblance. I think the ideas people in eastern countries are as true or as wrong as those of people in western countries. We're all human, aren't we?

About the swearing stuff, some people here do - even in normal conversations - though not the words you gave as an example, because we don't speak English in daily life. And yes, sometimes I do too...


Yes Trudy, we are all human.
But not having traditions,and if there is,then not respecting it,not being kind with same members of the family,worshiping the material world,and not careing of anyone except yourself,and if you are a bit good,you care about your small family as well.
Living just for yourself,and not caring about others,looking for your own interests even if its going to harm the others.
Not helping anyone,and just mind in your own business.
Swearing,using bad words,and that makes you cool.

İ have Cousins live in Canada,they start to hear voices coming from their neighbours apartment,then some hard voices,and the wife start to scream.
My cousin run quickly to them trying to help the woman,at same time his sister 'which was in Canada for couple of years before him'she tried to stop him,but his Eastern manners took him and he went and knocked the door try to help the lady,at the end the husband threatened him that he will call the police !

Thats some snap shots of how we see Westerns,thats what we know about you,and what Media telling us.

Some is true,and some is not,so the idea is telling us what is real,what is good and we dont know .

And by the way,Japan is far East,when was it West ?!
And its quite different from the Western life style too.



Thread: Engagements

2854.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 02:46 am

You will inşallah
Knowing what you want is the half way,not easy though
And i guess you know now



Thread: Engagements

2855.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 02:36 am

A marriage and a Ghost ?
İ dont think so lol
better without it



Thread: another word game

2856.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 02:33 am

Hayat - Life



Thread: Let The West Talk !

2857.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 02:11 am

İn one of the threads, our triple magnificent friend AEnigma was debating and as usual saying sentence irrelevant to that thread ' lol'
but it kept knocking in my head,at first i thought 'get out here,what is there to know' ,then,she was right, we really dont know.

İts about the West and Westerns.

She said, we 'Easterns' dont know the West,and we judge them.

And amazing as it is,she is right.
To us the West is a whole,we judge it as a whole,we know it as a whole too.
We dont distinguish a nation from another,we dont distinguish a traditions from another.

İm sorry to say that,but we dont even know that you have Traditions

We see you in the Media,your Media,and we judge you from there.
You've melted with each other,and every nation lost its identity in one identity is the WEST
Maybe only few we know they have there own taste,because they have same hot blood ,the Mediterraneans
'İtalian and Greeks'
But thats it.

İn the Engagments thread,i was amazed to know that in UK they weren't used to wear the golden bands,i thought all are same,exactly as teaship had said ,wearing a golden band in the left hand,and the bride get the ring too

But then she was talking about USA,not UK, then there is a difference after all.

So can you tell us about you ?
Can you tell us about your Traditions and your differences?
Can you tell us about American, Britsh ,French ,or Germans and how different they are from each others ?
How do they deal with strangers,hospital?not hospital.....ect
Each talk about his nation as he live in,goods and bads

Can you share with us another picture than the Media is telling us about you ?

At least can you tell us its not common nor true that you use the F**k word,and Sh*t words in your conversation with anyone normaly ?



Thread: Engagements

2858.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 01:41 am

True?!
Priest says Holy Ghost ?! İn a Church ?!!!
Do you believe there is a Holy Ghost ?!



Thread: arabic anyone??

2859.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 01:37 am

Quoting yavrummx3:

for example the alif and the ta marbuuta... also the thaal and thaa.

~


Alif is like A,but a bit softer in sound
ta marbuuta is like A+H the H in the end is a soft sound
thaal is like pronouncing TH in the first of the word 'THe'
thaa is like pronouncing TH in the middle of the word 'alTHough'

The idea how to use your tongue while pronouncing them.



Thread: Engagements

2860.       CANLI
5084 posts
 06 Aug 2007 Mon 01:25 am

Quoting suzieswimz:

And of the Holy Ghost.


Holy Ghost ?!
İsnt it the Holy Spirit ?!



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